I think they should have two types of searches: One is the current real time one they have right now, and the one that you mentioned in the post. Both sound cool, but I really don't want them to be merged at all.
jonknight
· 7 months ago
Hear, here!
Oyvind Solstad
· 7 months ago
This is good news, and somethiong that will be very useful.
But even more useful: Let me see the results from people I follow first. When I search for a movie, I would like to see my friends views before the views of the general Twitter population.
brentgrab
· 7 months ago
Wow this is interesting news! I guess this could be ONE of the reasons Twitter held out from selling after all the rumor talks this week about Apple, Google, or Yahoo proposing to purchase Twitter. Let's see how this evolves. I think this could certainly change the efficiency & accuracy of search indexing on the internet. Perhaps this will also encourage twitter-ees lol, to post more relevant & useful tweets instead of just mass posting or spamming ridiculous content. Sounds like the Semantic Web is in full effect for the future of Twitter.
Hahaaa ! Reputation Ranking System... this is beginning to sound like a slippery slope to getting so complicated that it won't work. Page Rank is a similarly dreadful 'system'. I don't have the answer - I know it's hard for people in charge of search algorythms to stay one step ahead of a spammer / abuser.
Justin Parks
· 7 months ago
This may be the secret business model a lot of us have speculated on and its proving to be true. The ever changing landscape of search... and who else could this possibly hurt as well as Google? Think every small business that desperately tries to be all it can be and invests in SEO etc. to market itself in SERPs to suddenly find its all gone, at the same time, this expands and levels the playing field... again!
mashaziva
· 7 months ago
Twitter Search results, links included, will not provide effective results to anyone but twitter users since the results only cull from this limited demographic. Google's user base is vast; Twitter's I suspect is limited to early adapters and savvy media and branding PR people. Until Twitter can attract and retain a great swath of mainstream users, these results will benefit only twitter users themselves. .
Bike Gamer
· 7 months ago
This is amazing. Never thought very short messages can be made into real search engine. Kudos twitter!
Jason Barone
· 7 months ago
This is a great idea. Perfect example of putting the users in control of ranking. I love it. Same concept as Digg, Techmeme and the other social media "ranking" services, but this is real-time.
Frederick Townes
· 7 months ago
Depending on what and how this capability exposed via their API there are some very interesting implications indeed.
richrecruiter
· 7 months ago
Why should number of retweets figure into a reputation ranking system? The people that show discretion and retweet far less are more respected in my mind.
Susan Hackett
· 7 months ago
Google,Twitter, Google,Twitter, Google,Twitter, Google,Twitter, Google,Twitter, what are these meanings?
Jack John B.
· 7 months ago
Don't forget to check out http://www.twibeo.com . It is a FriendFeed and Twitter como. Share photos, videos, location and much more.
Miguel
· 7 months ago
Man, you are everywhere :(
Elizabeth Kricfalusi
· 7 months ago
I don't see it. First of all, the Twitter search engine currently does not always find content within tweets that currently exist in their own system, especially if they involve a hash tag. Secondly, I disagree with your premise that at some point the links included in tweets will represent a significant portion of pages on the web. I can't imagine there will ever be more than a very tiny percentage of all the pages out there.
Miguel
· 7 months ago
R.I.P Google Search
MLDina
· 7 months ago
I'm excited about the new integrations Twitter is making for search. While they're current engine is useful, it is of course, very limited. It will be great to be able to see the link values as well.
@toddlucier
· 7 months ago
Google not invited to the Real Time Search Party
Suzanne Lainson
· 7 months ago
Twitter search is very of very limited use for me because unless a key word turns up in those 140 characters, I am going to miss it. Google search is much better because there is so much more content to search, substantially increasing the likelihood that a key word will turn up somewhere in the web page.
Including the content of links as part of Twitter will greatly help, although it still doesn't address the limitations of searching tweets with no links.
I'm very interested in music business. Searching "music" in Twitter gives me lots of tweets that aren't relevant. Narrowing it down to "music business" or "music biz" eliminates all the tweets which have to do with the topic but don't include those exact words.
Overall, Twitter search gives me too much of the wrong stuff and too little of the right stuff.
MrGoogleAlerts
· 7 months ago
This makes no sense at all. Twitter's search advantage is real-time conversation. It beats Google at that, and probably always will, because it is already gathering the data in real-time. Why would it want to clutter up its results with something where Google is the acknowledged leader? The time, energy, and server costs will swamp Twitter's development efforts. It sounds like Twitter has entered the God phase of any killer app. This is where the company believes that because they have already built one great app they can build anything else and it will be equally great. That is the sign of a peak. The downhill slide soon follows.
TwitrFic
· 7 months ago
Does that mean my avatar will go missing again? Maybe they can search for that LOL
Shannon Aronin
· 7 months ago
I wonder if rankings will reduce the "democracy" of twitter and what it will do to it's sense of community. I would prefer to see rankings personalized, a la facebook. Also wondering how long till the google/twitter merger breaks...
Mrs. Z
· 7 months ago
I keep telling people that Twitter is not a celebrity driven fad. It's more than a bunch of gossip. I'm not so certain about the "reputation ranking system" but I'll be watching it develop. I wonder if they're trying to create a more favorable environment for marketing via Twitter?
Edunetsys
· 7 months ago
Twitter search or for that matter Wolfram Alpha can not challenge Google in near future. The competition will only liven up the scene.
Andrew Webb
· 7 months ago
I think Twitter can benefit from similar approaches adopted by web search engines such as Google. TwitterRank would be an example of reputation ranking. See my post about "Ideas for improving Twitter search" - http://openenterprise.wordpress.com/
Jared O'Toole
· 7 months ago
I love twitter search. But it will not take over google, long-standing webpages and information found on google is a still a huge resource. However it will be interesting to see the dent it makes because I use twitter search more then google and as more people and conversations join twitter its only getting better.
Just have to limit the spammers. But so does google.
It's kinda what we've all been waiting for. The future of Twitter is search, according to everybody inside and outside Twitter. I still wonder if they'll profit enough to recoop the costs of going so long without a profit - but I hope they cure my skepticism.
Twitter Layouts
· 7 months ago
Really interesting, great article!
Joseph Fiore
· 7 months ago
The reputation ranking system is certainly an interesting concept and one I'll be watching with interest. I agree with Dave that this does sound ambitious, but at the same time, hats off to Twitter for announcing these steps. I use the word ambitious because utlimately, sentiment scoring is one key aspect of detemining reputation score, and while you could base it on number of followers/tweets, this isn't as reliable a metric and can easily be manipulated by abusers. As a developer and full-service provider of online monitoring and measurment tools, I'm fully aware of the technical limitations and I have yet to see a machine method that is both accurate and reliable. Ultimately human review is the only way to tackle the assignment of precision reputation scoring and measurement.
On a related noted, I just recently noticed that socialmention has taken some steps in assigning sentiment scoring to mentions. IMHO, this is all good for amusement and social media advancements, but certainly the kind of thing that search properties need to carefully approach because if it isn't done right, it could create a bad impression that might otherwise have been avoided if the focus was placed on getting the search part right.
Joseph @RepuTrack
William Mougayar
· 7 months ago
This is a hype kind of statement: "Crawling links will give Twitter’s search engine the scope it needs to compete with Google."
Justin Smith
· 7 months ago
Very interesting...
I don't know about competing with Google in terms of search, but the folks at Twitter do seem to have a compelling use case: achieving a good understanding of *who* is searching for things and doing so in real-time on location-aware devices...
Hmmmmm.
lukas
· 7 months ago
guys,
we also built a nifty mashup of twitter, twitpic, daylife, etc. in order to provide a real real time search tool.
I just hope this doesn't insight people to try to crack it or take advantage of it by spamming links.
Aaron Martirano
· 7 months ago
Great post I think it will take over and become the new way to search online real soon
Uwe Paschen
· 7 months ago
Fast maybe, what about accurate and reliable or even relevant. Miss information is fast more often then not, however real information and facts seem to come by at a slower pace and do not rely on Twitter.
Bill
· 7 months ago
I like twitter but lately they have become more of a bunch of spam.I just got to view a new startup www.bueno.com this looks promising .When you register they give you a free USA phone number to go along with your own page similar to facebook but with a little more juice.They seem to be asking (whats going on?) There plan is a different approach with the phone and voicemail and click to call friends this can become something interesting.They rather want the users to see what others are doing and put those people together for a more personal experience just by asking whats going on? This makes for an interesting new startup.Lets see how they hold up with them gicing away a free US number that you can make and receive calls from anyone in the world for free. Check it out www.bueno.com
davidfung
· 6 months ago
Good article.
Patricia
· 6 months ago
want to know why troubled teens (Barrington area) feel suicide is a solution to all troubles.
lakeshapugh
· 3 months ago
i think aaliyah is a beautiful person loved all her songs i'm so sorry that she had to go so soon i miss her love you.
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But even more useful: Let me see the results from people I follow first. When I search for a movie, I would like to see my friends views before the views of the general Twitter population.
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Including the content of links as part of Twitter will greatly help, although it still doesn't address the limitations of searching tweets with no links.
I'm very interested in music business. Searching "music" in Twitter gives me lots of tweets that aren't relevant. Narrowing it down to "music business" or "music biz" eliminates all the tweets which have to do with the topic but don't include those exact words.
Overall, Twitter search gives me too much of the wrong stuff and too little of the right stuff.
Just have to limit the spammers. But so does google.
On a related noted, I just recently noticed that socialmention has taken some steps in assigning sentiment scoring to mentions. IMHO, this is all good for amusement and social media advancements, but certainly the kind of thing that search properties need to carefully approach because if it isn't done right, it could create a bad impression that might otherwise have been avoided if the focus was placed on getting the search part right.
Joseph
@RepuTrack
I don't know about competing with Google in terms of search, but the folks at Twitter do seem to have a compelling use case: achieving a good understanding of *who* is searching for things and doing so in real-time on location-aware devices...
Hmmmmm.
we also built a nifty mashup of twitter, twitpic, daylife, etc. in order to provide a real real time search tool.
check it out and we hope you like it http://www.all140.com/
cheers
lukas