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Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Francis — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:54:28 -0000

WordPress is definitely recommended because most systems will have an xAMP (X, Apache, MySQL, PHP) setup (x stands for the operating system's first letter - not to be confused with XAMPP which has both PHP and Perl). Movable Type can only run on systems with Perl configured and enabled. WordPress (particularly the MU edition) powers WordPress.com, one of the most popular blog hosting services on the web.

On WordPress, post data are stored in the database. On MT, post data is stored in an HTML file (which makes the database have little use).

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Francis — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:53:20 -0000

On WordPress, post data are stored in the database. On MT, post data is stored in an HTML file (which makes the database have little use).

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

pdf maker 2009 — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:46:19 -0000

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Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Loui Zoot — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:14:29 -0000

Thank you Byrne, reading your build queue comment just saved me a 2 and half hour wait for my 1300+ posts and 1100+ comments to rebuild. That's per rebuild. A couple of days ago, I needed to rebuild about for or five times because of some major work I had to do to the site. Boy was that annoying, as that was before I clicked the little box that enables queue. I'm very glad I did a short search and found your comment. Thanks again.

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Fred — Fri, 16 May 2008 03:15:32 -0000

Obviously you don't know anything about wordpress so your comments are worthless.

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

daretoeatapeach — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:11:55 -0000

I have been using Wordpress for a few months and just got a MT blog. So far MT has been far less intuitive to figure out. Like you can't add users when you go to the User section. WTF?
I thought I was going to chuck my computer through the glass door when I kept republishing and nothing was happening (The page kept loading from the cache). So far I have had to republish the site for every little thing because the partial publishings aren't clear to me what they cover. And what are assets and how do they differ from widgets? No explanation and no link on where to find them. I go to the widgets page and there are check boxes and the only option given is to delete them. My hacker boyfriend seems to like the guts of MT better but so far the GUI is not user friendly. I'm looking forward to learning Movable Type but I worry it will be an uphill battle.

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Mads Nygaard Pedersen — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:46:07 -0000

This is really a great debate... I recognize most of the pros and cons mentioned here. We normally run WP at www.iteam.dk, but I installed MT4 on my new pers. blog (www.evolver.dk) for testing purposes yesterday, and what strikes me as MT benefits:
- Polished admin GUI (however, bells and whizzles don't make up for the drop down issues and the fact that extended core functionality makes clutter)
- Multiple blog handling
- Easy and VERY attractive 'get-template-by-url' feature (cannot remember exact name). Unfortunately, howeverbuggy in my experience so far. particularly when trying to add as a repository from http://www.thestylearchive.... - seems like the CSS files transfer allright, but the pics are left behind - refreshing/republishing doesn't help)

If the template issues got resolved along with the license clarity - MT4 would seem very promising - however it need more testing on my part...

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Climate change — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:21 -0000

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Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

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Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

rd Limosin — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:09:07 -0000

i vote for WP

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

edmicman — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:19:04 -0000

Some quick questions, hopefully I'll get some answers....

So I've got a handful of WP 2.x installs I run for some friends, and a personal WPmu that I run for myself. With the intentions of moving everyone else over to the multiuser install so I only have one thing to have to manage, update, etc. That's why the MT4 promise of managing multiple blogs from one install sounds great.

But at face value, I'm sort of disappointed at the number of MT4 templates (themes?). Ideally I'd be able to find comparable ones to what I've got for WP already, but it looks like I've got to find an alternative.

MT4 really doesn't have RSS feeds for comments?
MT4 really doesn't have a way to password protect individual posts? I have some bloggers that use this feature quite a bit.

I'm still gonna poke around things a bit, maybe try and post my personal WP blog over to MT4 and see what it looks like. And now that the newest WP2.3 seems to have ruffled some feathers....but I dunno...WP has been a breeze and a dream. I just need a good way to manage multiple blogs, and WPmu is a pain!

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Kevin — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:27:08 -0000

I've been a die-hard fan of MT for awhile now, and I was so excited about the 4.0 launch.

However, I've been really struggling with getting 4.0 working properly. It's getting frustrating. I don't know if it's something I'm doing wrong, or is a hosting issue. I hope to get it figured out soon or I'm going to contract out some WP developers.

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Ole Wolf — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:37:29 -0000

If you're going to compare Movable Type with Wordpress, you should consider the dynamic vs. static publishing that has been mentioned a few times in the comments.

The static publishing the MT4 provides may feel a bit slow, because the pages are rebuilt when you publish an entry. But in my experience, many web hosts have plenty of bandwidth for serving web pages, but their databases are the ones that slow down the pages. If your blog relies on dynamic publishing, the database can easily be a bottleneck.

In addition, if the database is down, your web page will be offline, even if the web server is up. If the web server is down, your site would be down no matter which blog you're using, but the combination of two services means that the probability of Wordpress being off-line is greater than the probability of MT4 being off-line. With MT4's static publishing, your average uptime will be higher than with Wordpress' dynamic publishing.

So, MT4's static publishing yields two advantages over Wordpress:

1. Better up-time.
2. Faster web content serving.

Both of these issues are key to successful content publishing, and I think you should have taken this fact into account in your comparison.

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Sheri — Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:15:35 -0000

I'm reading this post specifically because of my experience upgrading from MT3 to MT4. I've been fighting with it for two weeks and seem to finally have gotten it stable.

Of course, I still can't comment on my own blog.

I'm seriously considering a switch to WP.

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Zeta S. — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:57:36 -0000

I only really started blogging this year, so not too much experience on this side. I'm also only the average technical savy guy in what regards server-side applications, so this hanged good in the balance too when I started looking for my blogging tool of choice. However, long story short: I'm currently and concurrently running MT4 and WP2, and haven't decided yet which to keep. Looks like it's going to be a tough choice though... I'm still testing their features.

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Amin — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:36:24 -0000

I think that MT is way better than WP! There is a BIG feature that is missing in WP and that's "MultiBlogging". With one installation of WP, you'll ONLY get one blog but not in MT. And if WP has LOTS of plugiins, well MT doesn't need plugins. You can do it with it's core! You can build ANYTHING with MT and no pluing needed! (even a forum!)

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Brice Dunwoodie — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:04:07 -0000

For those also interested in how MT4 stacks up against Express Engine, we've published a review here: Movable Type 4 vs. Expression Engine

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

JimmyBoy — Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:30:44 -0000

I've tried many systems, MT, WP, Drupal, b2Evolution, Expression Engine, etc. I prefer WordPress because it's free (I don't like MT's making a judgment whether I make enought money to pay them, it's either free or not people, don't leave people hanging, who are you?), has the most templates available (MT cannot compete), the most plugins available (MT cannot compete), WP has an awesome community (MT had a good thing going then they got greedy and alienated everybody, no 2007 "opensourcing" will help you overcome that bad karma). So despite the paid testimonials from MT, Wordpress rules.

Just look at the most influential blogs, from Mashable to TechCrunch or GigaOm -- all Wordpress. Yes, the Gawker network of blogs still uses MT but I read many posts by Denton and his tech people that they hated the rebuilding problems with MT, the server issues with huge spikes, the old Perl, etc. And they do have the insider line with MT, they are top customers. Let me give you an example: the Xataka Spanish blog network -- they started with Movable Type, now they are running Wordpress. They got tired of its problems, so much for "the chosen professional blogging platform".

Still, Wordpress needs to improve in one key area: being able to insert several loops in the same page. This is a big limitation, being able to have only one 'loop' or blog running. Another limitation, not being able to run multiple sites with one installation. I'm surprised everyone is so comfortable with WP having only one loop, because with multiple loops it would really be a "CMS".

And Wordpress should support WP-Cache natively, I think it's the KEY plugin for Wordpress, without it MT would have the edge for really popular blogs. My WP blog just wheathered 100,000 uniques (according to Webalizer, server's internal stats) on one day... thank God for Ricardo Galli's WP-Plugin.

And for MT, go full opensource without any "will judge how much money you make depending on whether you report to the IRS". Correct the bad karma, and do the modern thing: charge for support like MySQL or Linux vendors. If you don't, WP will rule forever, like Wordpress.com owns Typepad.com. Who would pay for your unreliable Typepad service when Wordpress.com is reliable and free?

Go WP, but please enable multisite and multiloop.

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Nakamura — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:23:53 -0000

i guess my blog post can save time and trouble to some people, as i installed MT 4 the first time and took screenshots of the process, resulting in quick instructions how to get you movable type platform running!
anyway, ride in, check out, and if you see some bugs in my post, commento on it!
http://www.superxm.com/2007...

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

dcrellen — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:25:00 -0000

I want to get started blogging. I installed and tested WP on my Win2003/IIS server. Installation was a breeze. After reading user comments here, I thought I should test MT. The install has been a nightmare (the installation instructions assume someone is starting a new IIS server whereas I am hosting many websites). I finally got it all working and ran mt-check.cgi. This is as far as I can go because, although all of the requisite files are installed, according to the "Movable Type System Check", there is a bit of debug code preceding this form. It is "Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at D:\clients\www.ccx1.org\www\mt\mt-check.cgi line 124. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at D:\clients\www.ccx1.org\www\mt\mt-check.cgi line 124. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at D:\clients\www.ccx1.org\www\mt\mt-check.cgi line 124. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at D:\clients\www.ccx1.org\www\mt\mt-check.cgi line 124.".

I tried to comment on the MT Install forum, signed up, but it won't accept my login. Thus, my conclusion is that if it is this hard just to get it started, what should I expect down the road after I get up and running.

Bottom line: MT is too scary for me.

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Dan — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:34:42 -0000

Just to clarify: Drupal isn't ruby on rails, it's simple php/mysql. But Drupal isn't a blogging software...

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Tino — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:13:31 -0000

cgi...not everyone like it.

This is the Point!

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Raj — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:12:55 -0000

I just started blogging this year and both my blogs are hosted on the free blogger platform. I was now considering moving it to a domain of own but was confused as to which blogging platform I should chose. (I am not too much of a techie) Thanx for the review anyway, I guess I will go with Wordpress for now after reading this because I donâ€™t want to go with something that costs me and then is difficult to implement and is worse compared to itâ€™s competitorâ€¦!!

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

mike — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 06:17:17 -0000

that's ruby on rails...

Re: MovableType 4 vs. WordPress 2.2

Zach Wingo — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:51:19 -0000

I tried to install MT for a friend about a year ago, and I found it extremely frustrating. He hardly knew what a blog was and I tried to get him to use Wordpress but he settled for Typepad. After hearing some good things from knowledgeable people about MT 4 I decided to check out the demo. I'm really impressed with the improvements and from what I hear you upload your files, create the database and load the wizard does everything else, much like Wordpress.

I will be using MT in the future for sure. But for my personal blog right now I'll think I'll stay with wordpress until I become familiar with MT's template system.