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Re: Cuomo’s Child Porn Deal: The Death of USENET?

bhdgs — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:36:11 -0000

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Re: Cuomo’s Child Porn Deal: The Death of USENET?

pornexa — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:20:49 -0000

OK, we know you aren't into porn. But your porn-fiend "friends" can save paper and plastic by feeding their fetishes via this neat, new doohickey called the Interweb. (The rest of us can get our PG-rated magazines, movies, and music online.)

Re: Cuomo’s Child Porn Deal: The Death of USENET?

pornexa — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:23:53 -0000

ATT sucks when it comes to signal. There would be some places where you just can pick up crap

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poontime — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:17:58 -0000

try pacific bell

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Adam — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:11:47 -0000

So far AT&T hasn't joined in on the Usenet banning party, so I'm safe.

But honestly, I subscribe to comp.lang.python from Google Groups. If that went down, there goes the help and support that I get from the Python community.

Also, the child porn sharers will just find another venue to share their material. They will probably go to torrents, which will be blocked. Then to forums, that will be blocked. Eventually if they truly want to eliminate child porn they would have to shut down the internet.

Of course then the perpetrators will then discover U.S. Mail and get a huge mailing list, so we will have to shut that down too. Honestly, the possibilities are endless.

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Aurora Brown — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:23:37 -0000

@ Michael, exactly. This is a terrible assault on free speech and by extension, freedom of information. Imho, punishing everyone for the bad behavior of a few is completely unnecessary. If they picked their brains up off the floor, they'd come up with a better solution. They're just being lazy and taking the easy way out. Verizon is a little better, but we who have Time Warner (and by virtue of our area, can't get anything else) are screwed.

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Anon — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:54:23 -0000

Verizon is now reporting that they are restricting access to the self-proclaimed "Big 8" which includes ONLY: comp.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.*, and humanities.*.

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Bonochromatic — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:08:38 -0000

Actually I live in China, and had no problem reading this article, or accessing the entire alt* branch of Usenet.

So welcome to the New World Order. As far as I'm concerned, the U.S. now has more draconian censorship than China. Huzzah.

Agree with previous commenters - it's a slippery slope and it's not about child porn; it's about capitalizing on ignorance and a hot-button topic to push through censorship aimed at ending copyright infringement.

Perhaps, since one can use Google to find child porn, that should be banned as well?

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Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:57:58 -0000

Send me an email - <mark @mashable.com=""> - I'd like to follow up on this.</mark>

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jorge jackson — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:47:43 -0000

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viviane — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:00:03 -0000

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Oldskooler — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:49:56 -0000

Yes. Welcome to 1984. And more. Usenet is dying a slow death and freedom of speeck is being rendered a long goodbye.

Sad.

Move now!!!!!!!!!! While you still can. LEAVE!!!!!!!

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NEON JAVA — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:02:31 -0000

:::Yawn:::

Usenet is old school, anyway, so it's time overdue for the users to come out of their 'net caves and join the mainstream. As for those among them who've been up to no good in their caves, do whatever it takes to shine the bright light of day on their abuses. *ANY* web community, system, or "social network" that fails to set and hold reasonable standards and/or TOU should remember the internet is a public sphere.

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DLW — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:21:42 -0000

OH C'Mon!!! Child porn? They didn't pull usenet because of child porn...the pulled it because of copywrite violations and warez trading. Its all about greed not the welfare of children.

How about this Cuomo? How about we outlaw reproduction? No kids, no child porn!!! You greedy media purveyors have the lock on producing
crap media anyway.

DOUBLE PLONK UNGOOD!

Re: Cuomo’s Child Porn Deal: The Death of USENET?

Dan X — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:47:56 -0000

"Verizon, on the other hand, is blocking on a case by case basis known hangouts for purveyors of child pornography, as they â€œrecognize the value of newsgroups to folks other than child pornographersâ€ and warez traffickers."

hum. It's now 24 June and Verizon has dumped the WHOLE alt tree.

Can you get another update? Thx.

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mindcrimeculprit — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:00:08 -0000

Once you have adapted to the possibilities of this way to "solve" problems you will see quite a lot of new approaches at all our major problems: The end of sex-offenders by just completely prohibiting sexual activity. What use is it anyway? The end of the worldwide starvation by just bombing all "third world"-countries..

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sulak — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:45:56 -0000

Check out this interesting position regarding the Democrat Cuomo / Verizon deal: http://www.lp.org/issues/in...

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David Linus — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:47:36 -0000

My feeling is that although the crimes should be addressed, and precautions should be taken, the outright removal of ALL newsgroups seems entirely unfair. There are plenty of newsgroups that are completely legitimate. Microsoft, Apple, Google and even our Government all have newsgroup relations. TO kill this access to information seems a great deal overboard.
FOr me, this was the final straw. TWC was only kept around as my ISP because of Usenet access. Without this, I am leaving. I joined www.newsdemon.com and they're actually better than any usenet access that Ive had with an ISP, or with any other Usenet provider for that matter.
Now the mission is to find another ISP that has my interest in mind rather than one that takes advantage of a situation in order to cut costs on bandwidth.
D. Linus

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David Jaeger — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:22:57 -0000

Very sad...

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Rxtr — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:52:13 -0000

Welcome to the Slippery Slope, folks. How long before they use Child Porn as a reason to censor the entire internet? (And no, I do not condone child porn.) Shutting down Usenet is an absurd way to fight pedophilia. Chairman Mao would be proud.

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metavalent — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:36:39 -0000

precisely, michael. still, it's a good thing we don't live in China where they block the entire internet and replace it with a government-approved sub-version, right?

that could *never* happen here in the U.S., right? usenet consists of something like 60,000 groups; many of which have long served as the archives of THE internet from its very inception.

for the sake of 88 "bad" groups, they're shutting down all 60,000 or so.

most people today have no idea that it was the very challenge of better navigating data such as usenet and gopherspace that prompted creation of the mosaic browser and the so-called worldwide web, itself. this development is utterly pathetic, yet wholly typical and even expected.

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metavalent — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:24:38 -0000

precisely.

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Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:37:56 -0000

I almost didn't investigate the story due to the non-story nature of MSM coverage.. Interestingly, Fox News briefly tackled this angle of it, though their lack of followup is what inspired me to call all the the telecoms involved and write it up.

Unfortunately, due to the relative unknown status of USENET these days, this will probably pass on unnoticed by most folks.

Re: Cuomo’s Child Porn Deal: The Death of USENET?

Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:36:12 -0000

Given their various corporate histories, I'm surprised that Verizon has the most even-handed approach to this.

Certainly, in the case of Sprint and TW, you're absolutely right - this is a horrible restriction of free speech on the web. Given the government subsidized monopolies/duopolies in many parts of America, it's also a restriction that's completely legal and without recourse.

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StevenHodson — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:14:19 -0000

They might be going after the service providers now but with success how long will it be as I pointed out in a post today (http://www.winextra.com/200... before they go after the 3rd party USENET providers.