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Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

mcfastric — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:16:58 -0000

i would like to say there has been postings in the past on this site using my name and i never posted them so i wanted to clarify that i was not the one who posted those comments

thank you

Daniel Weaver
Mcfastric

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

mcfastric — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:03:01 -0000

i never made these commnets someone had posted my name online i am here to say that i never once made these comments

thank you

mcfastric
Daniel Weaver

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Ashly — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:30:26 -0000

I think the New Facebook takes and breaks what was simple, elegant and useful and replaces it with a variety of tabs that hide, disassemble and confuse the carefully crafted narratives and preferences that millions and millions of users chose with purpose. There is about 400 percent more advertising space on the New Facebook. Um, yay? Did we want that?

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Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Isaak — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:42:14 -0000

Tomas hit the nail on the head for me. Tabs suck, users are used to scrolling. I want one page to go to with everything like it used to be.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

jason — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:10:19 -0000

yeah, you have the choice to go to some other site or build your own facebook and make just how you want it. it's a free service, stop whining and go elsewhere if you don't like what's going on. facebook owes you NOTHING.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Branden — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:34:07 -0000

I actually prefer the new facebook. It's simplified my life a little and it certainly helps keep the damn clutter off those front pages which is the myspace mentality.

I understand people want to "express" themselves by throwing 50 widgets on their front page but when it comes down to it I don't want to see 90% of that shyt. Why? Because I want to get to your profile, read a little of your information, and post a comment.

I don't want to be bombarded by your annoying widgets and if I did I'll just check em out on that wonderful tab of yours. Anyways New facebook for the win!

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

adie — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:00:14 -0000

i am a new facebook user. And i'm register exactly when facebook present their new design. I loved the new design because it's feature, specially the bar, it help us a lot. But, as i can remember since i used the new design it seem facebook become unstable, lot of application crash, and page can't open. So i hope they have fixed this before they switch the design permanently.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Brian — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:07:34 -0000

This was my feedback to Facebook:

I hear that the "new Facebook" is going to go live soon. My purpose in writing this feedback is to explain why I'm not a fan of the new Facebook, offer some critiques and praise, and offer suggestions for and alternatives to rolling out such a huge change all at once.

I'm not a big fan of the new layout because It feels as if I now have less choices with how to layout my profile. Two examples: Wall integration with the Mini-Feed, and tabular pages. The Wall and Mini-Feed are very distinct, and have different properties. Basically, I decide what appears in my Mini-Feed, other people decide what goes on my Wall. (Yes, I can remove posts, but the point is that control over the Wall is shared.) My friends and I use the Mini-Feed and Wall to get different information and the new Wall hodge-podge just clutters things. Yes, in an ideal world, "Instead of needing to look at a million places to figure out what your friend has been doing lately, you can see the photos she's added, or read what his friends have said about last weekend." But in practice this integration doesn't work because the News-Feed and Wall don't have anywhere near a strong correlation much of the time, the Wall being much more random. Also, adding tabs seems like it would "give you more control over your profile," but with the way it's currently implemented, all it does is add more forced, unnecessary barriers to accessing the information that I want my friends and myself to see. This style only gives me more choices if you assume that I like this layout in the first place. I would love to put everything on one tab, organized carefully and efficiently, and be done with it. But I can't. The new Wall and the addition of tabs aren't the only two features which take away layout options, but I feel as if they are the clearest examples.

Moving on, I do like that the Facebook team is trying to develop ways to reduce clutter and make the site cleaner. This has always been Facebook's strong point, especially when compared to MySpace. I also understand the challenge of trying to balance this goal with giving users control over their own profiles. Where do you draw the line? Ultimately, however, I believe you have to err on the side of giving users more control. Yes, this might mean that users have more rope to potentially hang themselves with (cluttered pages, for example), but the important thing is that many if not most users will use it appropriately, and even if they don't, Facebook won't be strung up with them. While it's certainly hard to argue that the new site isn't clean, it's equally hard to argue that the old site was "unclean." Both layouts have that distinct, clean feeling that Facebook is known for. This is the same reason that makes it seem like the new layout is trying to fix something that isn't broken. The attempts to fix the layout and design of the site actually made it worse from a purely aesthetic point-of-view. I'm not sure I can provide a logical argument for why I feel this way, it's just a matter of opinion. Still, I understand that not everyone will agree with me, but that's precisely the point. Give the users more options, both in how they want to display their profile to others and in how they want to view the site. This seems to be working well right now, at least from the user perspective, so keep it. Keeping two parallel versions of the site (old and new Facebooks) might increase overhead, but it has a huge payoff: the user experience is much better. And user experience is critical to the success of any Web 2.0 site. So please, keep cleaning up the layout and increasing usability. You've done it in the past (with the Mini-Feed, for instance), and the site (and the users) have benefited greatly from it.

Finally, I'd like to address some specifics as to how Facebook can make big changes like launching a new layout without creating such panic in the hearts of so many users. Like I've said before, it comes down to giving people choices. Dividing the features of the new Facebook into individual pieces that can be separately turned on and off would be a great start. While this might ruin the cohesiveness you were hoping for, I believe it's a much better design philosophy in the long run. This way, it's easier you at Facebook to determine which specific new features people like and the user gets the experience they want. Another idea: rolling out smaller changes more often not only should make it easier for you to catch bugs and develop stable code quicker (I'm a sysadmin who works closely with programmers, so I've seen this in action), but allows each feature to be judged based on its own merits. With the new layout, most people will judge all the different features of the site together, unfairly helping poor features and unfairly hurting great features. Instead, a survival-of-the-fittest approach towards new features will help the site evolve much stronger. Besides giving people choices and making smaller changes, try to understand how people use the site. You already understand that it's hard for people to adjust to big changes, "which is why [you] wanted to make it easy for [users] to switch back and forth for a little while, in order to learn where everything went, and how the new site works." However, when the new Facebook launches, my friends and I, as well and many more users around the world, will be completely left in the dark as to where everything is. Why? Because we didn't switch back and forth between the new and old sites. We switched to the new site, then, after trying it out for a while, either kept that as the main site or immediately switched back to the old site, never to intentionally switch back again. It's risky to assume that people switched back and forth in an effort to learn how the new site works. And if that was your intention all along, it would have been great if that had been posted somewhere obvious before September 3rd. Making changes using these bits of advice will make the experience better for the users and make everything easier for you.

Ultimately, you at Facebook are going to decide which direction the site is headed in. You've done a good job so far of merging that direction with the direction that users want to head in, and I hope you will continue to be able to do that in the future. I appreciate the work you've put into everything, however, I think switching to the new Facebook so soon is a terrible idea. And it's not as if my only option is to get used to it. In all honesty, if the new layout goes live, I will probably just use the site significantly less. That's what it comes down to.

Notes: I sincerely hope that my verbosity helps my points more than it hurts them. I figured that it was better to explain my reasoning rather than leave a lot of my claims unjustified. Also, all quotations mentioned above come from Mark Slee's September 3rd post on the Facebook blog.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Guest — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:37:46 -0000

I like everything about the designs except that well, it's facebook. And sorry but facebook blows hard for "social" networking unless you're already part of one, like your workplace, or whatever. It's got too many restrictions shutting you off from the rest of the world, all to pretty much appease to self righteous prissy bitches that can't stand those internet "creepers" that they don't know sending them messages on a website. You know, the same chicks who find it to be fine and dandy to get wasted at a club on weekends and have some guy they do not even know come up to them on a dancefloor and randomly grind his genitals against their lower backs. That's fine if it's done in person, however if it's done online, that's unacceptable cause those guys may, you know, jump out of the monitor and slash your throat. It's even worse that the site is ditching their network main pages containing the forums and walls for everyone in your city or college or school's network to play around with which means even less of this whole online social networking fun. The only thing good about facebook is "Who Has the Biggest Brain" game. Otherwise, it's a conservative yuppy vision of what social networking is -- an experience twice wrapping you in condoms and making you still pull out when you orgasm. Sorry, but Myspace still wins for the average person.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Michelle Garcia — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:01:13 -0000

Honestly, every freaking time that Facebook redesigns, people are up in arms about it. It gets on my nerves -- no I'm not joining your stupid group "1 million against the new facebook."

I actually kind of like the "new" facebook. Yes, it has its issues, but it's a free service, so can you really complain all that much?

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Dave — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:24:17 -0000

"It would be great if their decision was "right" (which I think it is, I like the new layout), but even if it's "wrong", it's their prerogative to make that decision."

I agree, but then you'd have no customers. I mean, how else do organizations survive?

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Bernardo — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:21:28 -0000

Users always react badly to change. It's just the way it is. Everyone likes comfort, and rarely are even additions greeted with praise. We can see this on last.fm, facebook, netvibes and many other sites (including smaller ones like bf2s.com)
In the end, things evolve. And we adapt to the new design, and become comfortable with it.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Spammer — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:53:05 -0000

I've started using the iphone version of Facebook instead. It's clean, uncluttered and simple to use.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

dendrobates — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:00:36 -0000

sounds like you were spamming, bud. good luck getting 20 million 'dollers.'

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Guest — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:49:06 -0000

The new facebook is a lot better. I can't believe anyone liked the older version. You may be used to it after using it for ages but that doesn't make it better. Logically it doesn't make sense and it's hard to get information quickly.

The new design is a lot more user friendly and will open up a lot more in the way of functionality and design. Maybe we will see user skins, like on bebo.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Tony Killen — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:49:02 -0000

My profile changes 2-3 times a day to the new layout without notifying me. I got fed up with the endless back-and-forth changing so I thought I'd give the new one for a few days. I find it too messy and profiles are completely messed up. Why go from having everything in one place to having it in 10 different places? These things should be about convenience, not categorizing things.
I can see a lot of people moving away from the site once they decide to use the 'New Facebook' with no other option..

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

smarty — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:07:08 -0000

this is the beginning of the END for facebook.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Love — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:01:09 -0000

Since I never bothered making a facebook profile for myself, I'm sorry to say that I don't have that much knowledge about the social network, but I am aware of how much it has grown and the speed of its growth. It's incredible how they've become so popular indeed.

Now, knowing of what a huge network they are and how many users use them everyday, I'm quite certain that they would not risk what they've achieved by going into a kind of change that would simply be death of their popularity.
No, I don't think so, so I'm quite sure whatever they're trying to become, is going to be better than that they already are.

Eventually, users will get used to the new changes.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

ballsonmyface — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:40:40 -0000

who gives a fuck. i like the older design better as well though im not going to sit here and cry about. you'll get used to it and all will be fine. anyway, its facebook.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

ry — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:09:56 -0000

1: i have no friends.
2: Facebook is impossible to make new friends
3: Cant even browse people that live within a few miles away.
4: Fucking losers.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Tsreim — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:42:25 -0000

Don't take it personally. If you like what you get out of facebook, then you can adapt. It's really about getting the majority of popular content to viewers eyes faster and easier. It'll be slower at first because you don't know where anything is anymore, but once you figure that out the new layout is much more streamlined.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Bert — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:41:31 -0000

Lol. It's funny to me how people feel entitled to something. You're not entitled to anything. Quit your whining and leave if you're not happy. It's not that difficult.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

andi — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:49:12 -0000

i even do not have any one..

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

Tai Nguyen — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:19:42 -0000

That's ridiculous. Does Amazon offer people the option of multiple layouts for the site? Digg.com? Mashable? Every site has to make its own choices about what layout/design will be best for the majority of its users and then provide that. What a waste of money and manpower to have to support multiple layouts. It would be great if their decision was "right" (which I think it is, I like the new layout), but even if it's "wrong", it's their prerogative to make that decision.

Re: Like It Or Not, Here Comes the New Facebook

mcfastric — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:21:55 -0000

i dont feel that i have been reated fairly by facebook when they invade my privacy

i am acting as my own legal council an i am
seeking 20 million dollers damages

i am a musican and a artist an also a independent record label an they disable my account an yet have all my information on there servers like my music an all like from the research i have done on mr mark zukerberg hes a computer hacker a drop out of harvard an a thief of the idea of a classmate whos idea was facebook in the first place

i have send a number of emails and there is no costomer service what so ever if ur gonna invade someones account make sure they have done something wrong in the first place

like honestly theres criminal activity that happens on facebook in regards to the hells angels why not target people who are a threat to our society honestly

this is the end of the rops of facebook
justice needs to be brought to the attention
of these people whom work for this company
honestly treat users like trash expect it in return
cause u will loose all the customers in the world theres so many sites other then facebook we can go to