There seriously and very sincerely needs to be laws about internet harassment as well as public service/educational campaigns to show people you are never, ever anonymous online, but our government isn't there yet. Maybe as more cases like this unfold, they will take action.
Bob J.
· 2 years ago
My heart goes out that girl and her family, but I gotta say, sometimes I
Sean P. Aune
· 2 years ago
I am ashamed these people are in the same state as me.
balu
· 2 years ago
its a sad thing that a child passed away so young. but what does this have to do with internet? why are we so trusting to people we meet here, while in the real life not? there is no arguing that the person who did this to her did an evil thing. but since when is it a crime to offend others, to let others down?
her example only shows that people don't change their nature, no matter what media they chose to communicate by. but they are the same people living next door. get used to it, and don't open up.
Reboot
· 2 years ago
A story I missed also. A user at Wired.com provided the following comment:
''Here it is....after many days of anxious anticipation....the long awaited PICTURE OF LORI DREW!!!
For you naysayers out there, this was pulled directly from her Chamber of Commerce website.''
Bill
· 2 years ago
I can't believe that CPS (Child Protective Services) is not in there looking into the fitness of Ms. Drew to be a parent. The Drew daughter is certainly going to pay for her mother's actions for a lifetime and if that isn't child abuse, what is?
Fighter
· 2 years ago
Our site deals primarily with predators who prey on other vulnerable adults. However, the Meier case could be a first step in recieving justice for ANY victim who is preyed on by someone online.
We do NOT feel Megan's parents were in any, way, shape or form responsible for what happened. Lori Drew and her family need to take full responsibility. Lori needs prison for 2nd Degree Manslaughter & Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress. Her whole family needs counseling.
The internet justice she is getting is justified, in our opinion. But any vigilante justice we can't condone. We fully support the Meiers and some real justice, not a misdemeanor, is long overdue here.
I sent Ashley a message on myspace telling her to rot in hell. I must have been one of many--since now her account is deleted. shame on myspace for letting her keep an account that long.
TheDrewCrew@AOL.com
· 2 years ago
Ashley Grills additional contact info (paid accomplice, age 18 at the time of harassment/torment of Megan):
On Wednesday, October 21st, city officials enacted an ordinance designed to address the public outcry for justice in the Megan Meier tragedy. The six member Board of Aldermen made Internet harassment a misdemeanor, punishable by up to a $500 fine and 90 days in jail.
Does this new law provide any justice for Megan? Does this law provide equitable relief for a future victim or actually weaken the current law?
I reject the premise of this new law and believe it completely misses the mark. The reasoning behind this opinion is that city officials have consistently treated this case as an Internet harassment case instead of a child welfare/exploitation case.
Classifying this case a harassment issue completely fails to address the most serious aspects of the methods Lori Drew employed to lead this youth to her demise. The Vice disagrees that harassment was even a factor in this case until just a couple of days before Megan's death.
Considering this case a harassment issue is incorrect because during the 5 weeks Lori Drew baited and groomed her victim, the attention was NOT unwanted attention. It was not harassment at all. It was invited attention. Megan participated in the conversations willingly because she was lured, manipulated and exploited without her knowledge.
This law willfully sets a precedent that future child exploiters and predators can use to reclassify their cases to harassment issues. In effect, the law enacted to give Megan justice, may make her even more vulnerable. So long as the child victim doesn't tell the predator to stop, even a harassment charge may not stick with the right circumstances and a good defender.
Every aspect of this case follows the same procedural requirement used to convict a Child Predator. A child was manipulated by an adult. A child was engaged in sexually explicit conversation (as acknowledged by Lori Drew herself). An adult imposed her will on a child by misleading her, using a profile designed to sexually or intimately attract the 13 year old Megan.
Lori then utilized the power she had gained over this child to cause significant distress and endangerment to that child. She even stipulated to many of these activities in the police report she filed shortly after Megan's death.
We can go on and on here, but the parallels between this case and many other child predator cases that are successfully prosecuted bear striking similarities.
Child Predator laws do not require much more than simply proving that an adult has engaged a minor in sexually explicit conversation. Lori Drew has already stipulated that her conversations with Megan were sometimes sexual for a child Megan's age.
City officials who continue to ignore this viable, documented admission and continue to address this issue as harassment are intentionally burying their heads in the sand, when the solution is staring them right in the face. Why?
On June 5th, 2006, Governor Matt Blunt signed into law stiff penalties for convicted sex offenders. The Vice believes that officials continually reject a child predator classification of this case in order to keep the penalty of this offense out of this harsher realm.
Opponents of this law are active in defeating this law not by changing it, but by disqualifying cases like Megan's from ever being heard.
There are several other child exploitation laws on the books. To date, none of them have even been considered by City, State and Federal officials in this case. I'm outraged that a motion was never even filed, so that the case could at least be argued before a judge or jury.
Those satisfied with this response out of Missouri officials need to think through the effect this law will truly have. It quite honestly has the potential to directly undermine Jessica's law. It quiet easily gives prosecutors a way out of prosecuting child endangerment and child predator cases in the future.
I am not saying that these people are not scum - what they have done is disgusting. But lets not get carried away... it's not so easy to make healthy and self-confident people commit suicide - and the problem is that she was not healthy and self-confident. The question is how to raise self-confident kids - talking about guilt or manslaughter and anti-internet-harassment law are no solution.
Think about yourselves - you never got carried away? You never got angry saying horrible things to your parents or girlfriend or kids? Remember it could easily be you (or me) feeling guilty for the rest of our lives for making someone commit suicide. Please lets not get carried away. Sympathy to grieving parents.
Halley Marie
· 2 years ago
Lori Drew, the mother, has a blog called: "Megan had it coming"
It's probably the single most disgusting thing I've ever read.
kenny
· 1 year ago
that's not Lori Drew's site.
GothicWolf
· 2 years ago
And how is that action any better and less immoral than what Drew did? If you're so outraged at her harassment, grow up and don't do it yourself.
GothicWolf
· 2 years ago
By the previous comment I meant the one posting Drew's picture and the whole fat-ass thing. Apparently replies on this website dont show up in order.
Indy
· 2 years ago
I don't know why nobody is putting the blame where it really belongs, on Ashley Nicole Grills, and Sarah Drew! Sarah's mom Lori is taking the fall for a lot of it, but she's only responsible for letting Sarah Drew and Ashley commit the hoax. Lori should've stopped it upon first finding out about it and fired Ashley's sorry sick butt, and worked to get Sarah some much needed professional help.
Kenny
· 1 year ago
actaully Ashley is the owner of the page.Sarah was the one being bulied in the first place.sarah no longer got along wirh megan becuase megan was a drama queen.and btw,i know people who troll,and you don't kill yourself because some flamed you.Megan had problems that her mom isnt admitting to.
Kenny
· 6 months ago
Megan called sarah an ugly lesbian--not that i have a problem with lesbians,but how megan meant it.megan was jusrt as much of a troll as sarah.sarah was just giving back what she got.
I haven't checked these out, but am putting them out there.
Pur
· 1 year ago
Ashley Grills her friend and the friend's mother must all be held accountable for what happened! Ashley was probably jealous of Megan because she was thin and pretty and Ashley is just a big fat blob and I am surprised the hateful bitch has any friends. I hope she doesn't have any now.
david jones
· 1 year ago
mean and nasty dont even start to describe some people..But i belive that this evil thing will get her come upanse in time to come.. The only sad thing is the right people wont be there to see it happen...I truly with all my heart hope this monster get her just rewards...
Kathy
· 5 months ago
I'm dealing with another type of harrassment on myspace. Someone continues to create myspace pages using my name, town I live in and posts my cell phone number. The pictures are fake (currently they have the picture of Fat Bastard from Austin Powers as the profile picture), they have me as a member of the KKK and that I don't like Nig**s. The profile says to please call me because I'm lonely and desperate and they've added me to single & dating groups. I am very concerned for not only my safety but the safety of my family because of the racial insinuations. I've contacted myspace about this and after several days they will delete the profile but a new one is added within a short period of time. I've got a pretty good idea as to who is doing this, but not sure how to prove it or how to get help.
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her example only shows that people don't change their nature, no matter what media they chose to communicate by. but they are the same people living next door. get used to it, and don't open up.
''Here it is....after many days of anxious anticipation....the long awaited PICTURE OF LORI DREW!!!
http://i13.tinypic.com/7weh8af.jpg
She's the FAT ASS on the left.
Copy and paste whereever you see fit.
For you naysayers out there, this was pulled directly from her Chamber of Commerce website.''
We do NOT feel Megan's parents were in any, way, shape or form responsible for what happened. Lori Drew and her family need to take full responsibility. Lori needs prison for 2nd Degree Manslaughter & Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress. Her whole family needs counseling.
The internet justice she is getting is justified, in our opinion. But any vigilante justice we can't condone. We fully support the Meiers and some real justice, not a misdemeanor, is long overdue here.
http://cyberpaths.blogspot.com/2007/11/public-o...
http://cyberpaths.blogspot.com/2007/11/myspace-...
http://cyberpaths.blogspot.com/2007/11/web-hoax...
Ashley Nicole Grills (paid accomplice):
She is 18 but the psycho kid site linked above says 17
Her quote on her site says it all
" I Stalk The Dead"
mySpace page http://www.myspace.com/dundundundivlayoutsss
local scarey kid site id http://www.stlpunk.com/u_profile.asp?userID=73192
oh and just like Lori she shows no remorse with the following message on her myspace page.
"OOOPSssss! I made my page PRIVATE so your NOSEY ass can stop reading my COMMENTS! get a new HOBBY! lol!"
AOL Instant messenger ID istalkthedead06
Yahoo Messenger ID flamingashes_06
6337 Star Buck Dr
O'Fallon, MO 63368
636-240-5013
XAshesnthedust06@aol.com
email: oosk8erchickaoo@aol.com
AIM: datGrillZgirl06
MSN messenger: datGrillZgirl06
Does this new law provide any justice for Megan? Does this law provide equitable relief for a future victim or actually weaken the current law?
I reject the premise of this new law and believe it completely misses the mark. The reasoning behind this opinion is that city officials have consistently treated this case as an Internet harassment case instead of a child welfare/exploitation case.
Classifying this case a harassment issue completely fails to address the most serious aspects of the methods Lori Drew employed to lead this youth to her demise. The Vice disagrees that harassment was even a factor in this case until just a couple of days before Megan's death.
Considering this case a harassment issue is incorrect because during the 5 weeks Lori Drew baited and groomed her victim, the attention was NOT unwanted attention. It was not harassment at all. It was invited attention. Megan participated in the conversations willingly because she was lured, manipulated and exploited without her knowledge.
This law willfully sets a precedent that future child exploiters and predators can use to reclassify their cases to harassment issues. In effect, the law enacted to give Megan justice, may make her even more vulnerable. So long as the child victim doesn't tell the predator to stop, even a harassment charge may not stick with the right circumstances and a good defender.
Every aspect of this case follows the same procedural requirement used to convict a Child Predator. A child was manipulated by an adult. A child was engaged in sexually explicit conversation (as acknowledged by Lori Drew herself). An adult imposed her will on a child by misleading her, using a profile designed to sexually or intimately attract the 13 year old Megan.
Lori then utilized the power she had gained over this child to cause significant distress and endangerment to that child. She even stipulated to many of these activities in the police report she filed shortly after Megan's death.
We can go on and on here, but the parallels between this case and many other child predator cases that are successfully prosecuted bear striking similarities.
Child Predator laws do not require much more than simply proving that an adult has engaged a minor in sexually explicit conversation. Lori Drew has already stipulated that her conversations with Megan were sometimes sexual for a child Megan's age.
City officials who continue to ignore this viable, documented admission and continue to address this issue as harassment are intentionally burying their heads in the sand, when the solution is staring them right in the face. Why?
On June 5th, 2006, Governor Matt Blunt signed into law stiff penalties for convicted sex offenders. The Vice believes that officials continually reject a child predator classification of this case in order to keep the penalty of this offense out of this harsher realm.
Opponents of this law are active in defeating this law not by changing it, but by disqualifying cases like Megan's from ever being heard.
There are several other child exploitation laws on the books. To date, none of them have even been considered by City, State and Federal officials in this case. I'm outraged that a motion was never even filed, so that the case could at least be argued before a judge or jury.
Those satisfied with this response out of Missouri officials need to think through the effect this law will truly have. It quite honestly has the potential to directly undermine Jessica's law. It quiet easily gives prosecutors a way out of prosecuting child endangerment and child predator cases in the future.
Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing here.
Danny Vice
http://weeklyvice.blogspot.com
Think about yourselves - you never got carried away? You never got angry saying horrible things to your parents or girlfriend or kids? Remember it could easily be you (or me) feeling guilty for the rest of our lives for making someone commit suicide. Please lets not get carried away. Sympathy to grieving parents.
"Megan had it coming"
yeah. really. http://meganhaditcoming.blogspot.com/
It's probably the single most disgusting thing I've ever read.
http://www.4freeimagehost.com/show.php?i=b08c40...
Ashley's Xanga site:
http://www.xanga.com/istalkthedead06
More Ashley images
http://lads.myspace.com/slides/slideshow_random...
I haven't checked these out, but am putting them out there.