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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Mashable - The Social Media Guide - Latest Comments in Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.disqus.com/</link><description>Internet and Technology News - Mashable is the world’s largest blog focused exclusively on Web 2.0 and Social Networking news. With more than 5 million monthly pageviews, Mashable is the most prolific blog reviewing new Web sites and services, publishing breaking news on what’s new on the web.</description><atom:link href="https://mashable.disqus.com/thread_63189/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:07:12 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-9601458</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I don't agree. I think Twitter is doing the right thing, picking a path slowly. Revenue will come. What about it's proposed partnership with Google ?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Ben O'Connor</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:07:12 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6648313</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Mmm, not very impressed with any of the monetization ideas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What about...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(a) taking any url submitted and then aliasing it (by making it a tinyurl-type link) which has either a splash page advertisement, or advertisement on the top 80 to 100px of the landing page. Also, only show it in semi-random pattern so users don't get annoyed at an ad every url click. Also, URL CTR is very high. So, I include &lt;a href="http://www.abcdefg.com/hijklmnop.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.abcdefg.com/hijklmnop.html"&gt;www.abcdefg.com/hijklmnop.html&lt;/a&gt; in my message and twitter aliases it to &lt;a href="http://twitterurl.com/foobar" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="twitterurl.com/foobar"&gt;twitterurl.com/foobar&lt;/a&gt; which when clicked shows an advertisement for X seconds or shows an advertisement at the top of the page of the original link.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;or maybe&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(b) in short, create groups where advertisers pay for the group users to tweet about something where the users get a revshare of the tweet just by posting the tweet and/or affiliate-type sharing where a reader clicks the link in the tweet and like PPC, or impression, or conversion, gets paid. So (example) &lt;a href="http://www.twitter-groups.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.twitter-groups.com"&gt;www.twitter-groups.com&lt;/a&gt; (owned by twitter) has a network of individuals looking to make/earn money just by tweeting. Business XYZ signs up on &lt;a href="http://twitter-groups.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="twitter-groups.com"&gt;twitter-groups.com&lt;/a&gt; so the network of users can tweet about what XYZ wants. XYZ pays &lt;a href="http://twitter-groups.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="twitter-groups.com"&gt;twitter-groups.com&lt;/a&gt; to do that and the users are inclined to tweet so they can earn extra cash just for tweeting it. Can earn even extra cash if a link is included and reader clicks on the link, and or, reocurring commissions based on conversion of link follow-through. Can maybe even combine first idea (a) with this idea (b).&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Alexander Kintis</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:44:17 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6295543</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Mmm, not very impressed with any of the monetization ideas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What about...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(a) taking any url submitted and then aliasing it (by making it a tinyurl-type link) which has either a splash page advertisement, or advertisement on the top 80 to 100px of the landing page. Also, only show it in semi-random pattern so users don't get annoyed at an ad every url click. Also, URL CTR is very high. So, I include &lt;a href="http://www.abcdefg.com/hijklmnop.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.abcdefg.com/hijklmnop.html"&gt;www.abcdefg.com/hijklmnop.html&lt;/a&gt; in my message and twitter aliases it to &lt;a href="http://twitterurl.com/foobar" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="twitterurl.com/foobar"&gt;twitterurl.com/foobar&lt;/a&gt; which when clicked shows an advertisement for X seconds or shows an advertisement at the top of the page of the original link.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;or maybe&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(b) in short, create groups where advertisers pay for the group users to tweet about something where the users get a revshare of the tweet just by posting the tweet and/or affiliate-type sharing where a reader clicks the link in the tweet and like PPC, or impression, or conversion, gets paid. So (example) &lt;a href="http://www.twitter-groups.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.twitter-groups.com"&gt;www.twitter-groups.com&lt;/a&gt; (owned by twitter) has a network of individuals looking to make/earn money just by tweeting. Business XYZ signs up on &lt;a href="http://twitter-groups.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="twitter-groups.com"&gt;twitter-groups.com&lt;/a&gt; so the network of users can tweet about what XYZ wants. XYZ pays &lt;a href="http://twitter-groups.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="twitter-groups.com"&gt;twitter-groups.com&lt;/a&gt; to do that and the users are inclined to tweet so they can earn extra cash just for tweeting it. Can earn even extra cash if a link is included and reader clicks on the link, and or, reocurring commissions based on conversion of link follow-through. Can maybe even combine first idea (a) with this idea (b).&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Alexander Kintis</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:44:17 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032375</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Stan, you say "some sort of decentralization is still the way to go." Could you expand please?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Josh</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:54:49 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032374</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I thought the same thing, too. Charge advertisers per tweet. Pay Per Tweet&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Josh</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:52:20 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032372</link><description>&lt;p&gt;that is, if Twitter still exists then. There have been many great ideas that never made it because of the lack of money flowing into, rather than out of the bank accounts of those providing it..... I guess Twitter needs to come up with a way to make some money to make sure it will be here two years from now...&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Willem Kossen</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:10:48 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032371</link><description>&lt;p&gt;This post illustrates a distinct lack of vision and understanding. Twitter is so much more than a simple communication platform. It has a search element that is much more timely than Google. It is a social network that is more topical than any other, let alone phpBB.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Honestly, in about 2 years, we're going to be thinking of Twitter like Altavista was thinking of Google--How did we miss what now appears to be so obvious?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jim Kerr</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:11:01 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032370</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder how much is actually incremental revenue vs a change of channel (rss/email). My assumption: very little incremental revenue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Moreover, we're talking Dell revenue here, the nett margin for them is probably very low. So, Twitter wouldn't be able to make loads of money on this either.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">gijs bos</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:26:21 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032369</link><description>&lt;p&gt;If one took a look at the popular post link or the tag cloud they would see that twitter is not all this blog talks about.I am sure the good people at twitter have some very good ideas in store for monetizing twitter.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Steven Wilson</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:25:23 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032368</link><description>&lt;p&gt;As a frequent visitor I can assure you this blog talks about lots of other things as well.....&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Willem Kossen</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:14:38 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032367</link><description>&lt;p&gt;If twitter isn't monetized, are they giving out favours to mashable some other way?  I swear twitter is all this blog ever talks about.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Michael</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:01:05 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032366</link><description>&lt;p&gt;At least some (annoying?) twitter users are monetizing twitter for their own sake with a twitter spamming service called magpie. This service twitters - in the name of it's members - advertisements to their followers which I believe is twam. However, I can't opt out without unfollowing those people (which is a bit drastic, because I was following them for other reasons...)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Follow me at &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/wkossen" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://twitter.com/wkossen"&gt;http://twitter.com/wkossen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Willem Kossen</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:54:41 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032365</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Convert links to Dell to an affiliate link that earns money for Twitter (if they have a program like that). Maybe that doesn't work for Dell, but would work for several other companies (amazon, itunes). It certainly isn't a killer monetization strategy, but maybe there isn't one killer app, maybe there are just lots of little ones that add up.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">dumbfounder</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:12:25 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032364</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Craig, I fully support your opinion... as I was reading through the post, I was thinking to myself "why not PPC?"&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is tehre something you and me are not taking into account?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Predrag</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:53:51 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032363</link><description>&lt;p&gt;"They can click over to purchase the product or forward the information to others."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If they want to monetize this, then Twitter should create its own pay-per-click (PPC) scheme. Those messages Dell send out are basically adverts with a link. How is this any different to a standard PPC advert?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Craig</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:39:26 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032362</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Hail to the Thieves&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Facebook Connect, Google Open Social, and twitter the closed source content trap are all a slap in the face to the Open Principals of the internet.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Any developer and proponent of a truly Open web must take an active roll in pushing for the success of Laconica and OpenID and should not help to extend any closed source application.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Today we have no less than 3 closed source companies in a race to become the "Standard" for holding our Identity and therefore having access to the content that we read and creates. These companies will leverage our content to create revenue; giving nothing back to the content owners or to the community.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do developers especially Open Source developers continue to build and extend applications for closed source companies that under mind open source standards and ideals ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do users continue to view giving control of their identity and content to these companies as a win, when in fact the win is clearly on the side of the company that you have allowed to take control of your identity and to generate value and revenue from your content. In return for our compliance we do not even have a right to take our identity and our content where we want.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Open Source developers, please do not write any code to extend the propitiatory services of closed source applications . They are not your "Friend" When you write code for these companies you undermine the integrity of the Open Web.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">william</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:31:32 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032361</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Another alternative would be to meter the API.  Charge a fee to unlock unlimited API requests.  Partners like Yahoo!, Microsoft, Google, AOL, etc. build Twitter capability into their messenger applications which already serve as ad platforms.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Plus side, instant business model.  Negatives, it would kill existing innovative applications like TweetDeck. Realistically though Twitter has nothing to gain financially from turning down such an opportunity to protect TweetDeck et. al. which generate $0 in income for them.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Drew</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:21:07 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032360</link><description>&lt;p&gt;This might be way off left field but just think about it for a sex .. oops! (freudian slip), I meant 'sec' ...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Companies/Individuals who see a substantial and calculatable (?) profit from using Twitter should give Twitter a % of their revenue *ducks from the virtual fruit and what not being conceivably thrown at me*.  Okay, it might wound way off but that is what I believe.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Twitter provided a platform where amazing interactions, deals etc .. take place. We should at least give back. When I make money from my connections on Twitter (and that is NOT why I am on Twitter either), I am certainly going to give back. Yup. You can quote me on that. Carmen Villadar's my name, just watch me!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cheers!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Carmen Villadar</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:17:37 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032359</link><description>&lt;p&gt;How about Twitter partnering with a mobile phone operator and giving them exclusive rights to the text message elements of the Twitter service?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Sam Beckwith</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:16:23 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032357</link><description>&lt;p&gt;My eyes see only two ways of monetizing Twitter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. Ads served on pages, even though the vast majority of hard-core Twitterers use a 3rd party app...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2. Premium services for a fee.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Neither sound that appealing, but I could be over-looking something.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mike Panic</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:04:26 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Twitter May Have Made Dell a Million, it Doesn&amp;#8217;t Mean it Can Be (Easily) Monetized</title><link>http://mashable.com/2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/#comment-6032356</link><description>&lt;p&gt;here is the twitter ... so ...&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">sealon</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:02:41 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>