I had a similar conversation last night with a friend of mine. It seems that folks immersed in the tech world are getting a lot more use from Twitter than Facebook. But the situation is different for someone like me. As big a tech-dork as I am, I have many more non-techie friends than tech-savvy friends.
Most of my pals can't even figure out what Twitter is (despite my evangelizing). The funny thing is, they ALL use the status update features offered by Facebook or Gmail. Many of them use both services. For these users, Gmail and Facebook are Twitter. Why sign up for another cow, when they're already getting the milk?
What Twitter offers is becoming a commodity. The next frontier is integration of the different "status" services. Twitter is wisely positioning itself as a intermediary that will be able to update several services at once. Already the Twitter Facebook app can update Twitter and Facebook simultaneously. I think we'll see Twitter integrate with Myspace as well.
Soon, everyone will be twittering. But most of them won't be on Twitter.
p.s. I agree wholeheartedly about Google Reader.
digitaldivide
· 2 years ago
I'd agree with wholeheartedly here with Mr. Mrshl...
To Joe Six Pack in Des Moines, Iowa, Marshl is spot on there.
And add to the fact that 85% of the world doesn't even have the Internet period, yet alone Twitter or Facebook, etc. (personal plug for IPv6) Twitter is a very very geeky application...sure it is going to grow and grow and become more simple for those that don't understand it.
But, on the other hand there is value in Facebook as time goes on...I agree, all the alerts and notifications are ever increasing, but who needs to deal with them if you don't want to....I just "let them ride" with what appears to be no dire consequences to me....I have yet walked up to anybody in real life and hear them say, "Hey, Geof you freakin moron, you ignored my Zombie request...I don't wanna talk to you anymore!"
If I scan through my home page and see some interesting new profile pics of friend, or of my niece or daughter, etc. then bingo I am on it. I might be missing the boat with Twitter, but I am a pictures and video kinda guy and not really using any form of social networking for "professional reasons". I don't see how Twitter makes any more money for a guy framing houses in Redding, California, or a gal that is a waitress at the Olive Garden in Charlotte, NC.
If I want an immediate response to somebody, I know this sure will sound old school, but I find myself more and more frequently unflipping my phone and pressing some buttons and pushing the SEND to talk button.
Status, presence, location, etc. whatever you want to label it..."will be King" in the 2010's. And it will come in many forms and be used and monetized in a variety of different ways, and that in my opinion is one of the real values of Web 2.0...and my space seems to be a very simple and widely used implementation of that.
All that said, Rizzn you did do a very good job on that article, I agree I am a bit Facebook fatigued myself and you shed some light on some things I am going to try out. And at the end of the day the beautiful thing about web 2.0 is that it is like wine...beauty is all in the eyes of the person getting drunk from it!
Geof Lambert
digitaldivide
· 2 years ago
oppps silly me, just realized a typo, for heaven sakes I confused MySpace with Facebook!!
"and that in my opinion is one of the real values of Web 2.0...and my space seems to be a very simple and widely used implementation of that.... "
s/b Facebook seems to be a very simple....
btw, this does remind me and beg the question then, just how much money did Tom Anderson and crew "leave on the table" when they inked the deal with Rupert?
Gosh are they kicking themselves a little bit in the butt these past 36 hours??
What is the value of MySpace October 25, 2007?
Adam
· 2 years ago
Wait. You're saying Facebook doesn't help you with your work?! Shocking.
Facebook and Twitter have some overlaps, but they are serving different markets and needs. Your rant was a bit superfluous.
talentshowdown.com
· 2 years ago
I'm so confused. So the point of Web2.0 is to consolidate chat rooms so you can get your news faster? Don't get me wrong, I think facebook is a crap fad, but if this is what we're left with to justify Web2.0 then Web2.0 is a crap fad too.
Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
· 2 years ago
TalentShow: I think you might be missing the larger picture of what I'm trying to say. That could be failure on my part, or perhaps you aren't reading me in context.
I'm not saying that Twitter is not the only example of seamless integration in the entire wilds of the web. I'm not even saying that in this article: I specifically mentioned Google reader, and the way it and Tumblr seamlessly integrate.
Seamless integration of data organising itself in the background is what I'm really trying to get at here. Facebook creates more extraneous data. Twitter and GReader filter it, without losing important information. That's my point.
Adam Hirsch
· 2 years ago
Alright, let me get this over with. I've never used Twitter, I just signed up for it today after reading this post. Can someone tell me how I should twitter for my advantage? Give me 5 to 10 steps to take please.
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Reverse Metcalfe's Law.
Most of my pals can't even figure out what Twitter is (despite my evangelizing). The funny thing is, they ALL use the status update features offered by Facebook or Gmail. Many of them use both services. For these users, Gmail and Facebook are Twitter. Why sign up for another cow, when they're already getting the milk?
What Twitter offers is becoming a commodity. The next frontier is integration of the different "status" services. Twitter is wisely positioning itself as a intermediary that will be able to update several services at once. Already the Twitter Facebook app can update Twitter and Facebook simultaneously. I think we'll see Twitter integrate with Myspace as well.
Soon, everyone will be twittering. But most of them won't be on Twitter.
p.s. I agree wholeheartedly about Google Reader.
To Joe Six Pack in Des Moines, Iowa, Marshl is spot on there.
And add to the fact that 85% of the world doesn't even have the Internet period, yet alone Twitter or Facebook, etc. (personal plug for IPv6) Twitter is a very very geeky application...sure it is going to grow and grow and become more simple for those that don't understand it.
But, on the other hand there is value in Facebook as time goes on...I agree, all the alerts and notifications are ever increasing, but who needs to deal with them if you don't want to....I just "let them ride" with what appears to be no dire consequences to me....I have yet walked up to anybody in real life and hear them say, "Hey, Geof you freakin moron, you ignored my Zombie request...I don't wanna talk to you anymore!"
If I scan through my home page and see some interesting new profile pics of friend, or of my niece or daughter, etc. then bingo I am on it.
I might be missing the boat with Twitter, but I am a pictures and video kinda guy and not really using any form of social networking for "professional reasons". I don't see how Twitter makes any more money for a guy framing houses in Redding, California, or a gal that is a waitress at the Olive Garden in Charlotte, NC.
If I want an immediate response to somebody, I know this sure will sound old school, but I find myself more and more frequently unflipping my phone and pressing some buttons and pushing the SEND to talk button.
Status, presence, location, etc. whatever you want to label it..."will be King" in the 2010's. And it will come in many forms and be used and monetized in a variety of different ways, and that in my opinion is one of the real values of Web 2.0...and my space seems to be a very simple and widely used implementation of that.
All that said, Rizzn you did do a very good job on that article, I agree I am a bit Facebook fatigued myself and you shed some light on some things I am going to try out. And at the end of the day the beautiful thing about web 2.0 is that it is like wine...beauty is all in the eyes of the person getting drunk from it!
Geof Lambert
"and that in my opinion is one of the real values of Web 2.0...and my space seems to be a very simple and widely used implementation of that.... "
s/b Facebook seems to be a very simple....
btw, this does remind me and beg the question then, just how much money did Tom Anderson and crew "leave on the table" when they inked the deal with Rupert?
Gosh are they kicking themselves a little bit in the butt these past 36 hours??
What is the value of MySpace October 25, 2007?
Facebook and Twitter have some overlaps, but they are serving different markets and needs. Your rant was a bit superfluous.
I'm not saying that Twitter is not the only example of seamless integration in the entire wilds of the web. I'm not even saying that in this article: I specifically mentioned Google reader, and the way it and Tumblr seamlessly integrate.
Seamless integration of data organising itself in the background is what I'm really trying to get at here. Facebook creates more extraneous data. Twitter and GReader filter it, without losing important information. That's my point.
- Adam Hirsch, Mashable.com
Facebook - hate it. lots.
Twitter - like it. sometimes. have never actually found it "useful" though. just perhaps fun-ish.
http://senithomas.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/face...