I wasn´t aware of Sonico.com being a OpenSocial container since a conference at the "OpenSocial Hackathon" in Buenos Aires last month (http://wordpress.chanezon.com/?p=56) when Patrick Chanezon introduced them and their developer´s platform.
Jesus Hoyos
· 1 year ago
Not surprise about this. I bet most of their users are from Argentina and Colombia.
Juan Pablo Sueiro
· 1 year ago
Jesus, in fact, most of the users of Sonico are from Brazil (21%), followed by Mexico (18%), Colombia (12%), Peru (10%), Argentina (9%) and then Venezuela, Chile and Spain. Pretty much all across Latin America.
Jesus Hoyos
· 1 year ago
I am glad to hear that it is all across Latin America. Many of my friends from Colombia and Argentina are in Facebook, but it seems that Sonico is ahead with users all over Latin America.
Joás Sanct
· 1 year ago
I still use both Sonico and Orkut, but like Sonico better for a few nice features. Privacy settings, private messages, and a better look. Also, there are no virus flying around like in orkut!
Maris Jose Soubie
· 1 year ago
I"m very happy with Sonico us they care a lot about my privacy and can share everything with my friends.
Jean Pierre
· 1 year ago
"Street numbers" are not reporting the same. I would take them with caution.
A Technically Minded Person
· 1 year ago
Jean, I am not user of Sonico as I already have an account at facebook and almost all my friends are there. But I do not agree with you when talking about "Street numbers". Our opinions and perceptions are usually based on our social circles and it´s really difficult to have a complete view about other people behavior.
And regarding information sources... I still prefer comScore, compete or quantcast than "street numbers"
Bollan
· 1 year ago
FYI... comscore #s for April are out: Sonico dropped 50% to 7.5 million unique users - do you know why?
And where's the rest of Latin American countries in your chart - dont those people matter to Sonico too?
I think this is a great example of a company probably using shady techniques to bump up their uniques. The April #s are clear proof that Sonico is manipulating their traffic.
gordon behar
· 1 year ago
of course nobody knows about Sonico because its a scam. They spam people and the only real users they have are because they took over a greeting card website and they send them fake cards so they log in. Mashable used to do a bit more research before doing articles about a group of douchebags and their fake social network.
That Juan Pablo is their PR idiot, who always posts defending their site. How pathetic.
alex nozad
· 1 year ago
Well, they announced they are in OPENSOCIAL but they are NOT. These people are just first class crooks and liars. 150k new users per day? That is 4.5 million a month! Who are they kidding?
Bruno Ferrera
· 1 year ago
Fyi Mashable readers, this company was torn to pieces in a previous Techcrunch writeup about them for its very shady traffic stats.
The real juice on Sonico (or as we Latin Americans like to call it "Spammico") is the commentaries section of the article below:
To "Bollan": Brazil and Mexico account for 75% of the GDP of Latam. Hi5 is big in Peru, but last year this country had 4 million dollars in online revenues. Guess where it makes sense to grow?
To "gordon behar". Scam? Clearly we a have a couple of haters chasing Sonico because they think that kick starting a social network with other properties is not genuine. Grow up and read how myspace and bebo started in the first place. In the meantime we continue to create a great product for latam users.
To "Alex nozad" We are finishing up the open social container as we speak, we are going to be in production in 30 days.
Rodrigo Teijeiro
· 1 year ago
To "bruno ferrera" Spammico? I guess if facebook spams the hell of your inbox with vampire emails or fun wall stuff, that is no problem? Maybe having to invite people to actually use certain applications is not spam aswell? Or hi5 tricking you to put your login/password and spam your whole list of friends. Do i smell a double standard because we are from latam? At Sonico we have been extremely careful with all this and that's why we have been able to create a community of real people with real connections. Bruno, clearly you have some personal issues with sonico... be happy to clarify them to you directly... ceo@sonico.com I'm traveling right now.. see you in a couple of hours :) To all the rest of the millions of Sonico users, they know how hard we work to get new improvements and new applications on the site on a weekly basis.
If you are not in, try us out!! :)
Juan Pablo Sueiro (Sonico)
· 1 year ago
Thanks "gordon" for your kind words. Rodrigo already replied to your statements.
Rick M. Sartor
· 1 year ago
These people are so full of it. And they have the nerve to answer publicly here? Everyone knows this site is a scam. The 15 million users like the site because they are as real as their bullshit slogan. If a site needs to clarify in their slogan that it's "real users and real connections", something is clearly off.
Bruno Ferrera
· 1 year ago
Real people? Real connections? Seems like "Real" is something you guys are trying to push too hard. Rodrigo, why dont you get a "real" PR person (Juan Pablo seems to be very busy there days trying to shoot out a lot of fires around the blog world that talk about the 'real' sonico, poor guy!) and help us fix the math here:
Ad-Tech San Francisco (April 2008):
Sonico claims to have "18 million registered users"
Rodrigo, can you explain the 3 MILLION user difference? Typo? Another brilliant marketing scheme?
On your proposal it would be great to meet you, but I am too busy deleting all the spam emails from your site (they dont call you Spammico for no reason!) and closing all the annoying popups you guys put out throughout the market, everyone knows traffic is dirt cheap in Latam but your engagement levels i'm sure are more interesting than the 150k new users a day! Man, you guys really do "grow" like Myspace(?) ;)
More on Spammico from Latin Americans who actually have been on the site (sorry, in Spanish but run Google translator):
Did you just tell me to grow up? You say you are the CEO? For a company that has so much traction and growth you sure spend a lot of time trying to explain your actions. Every blog or article about your company has comments of people trashing your company and you defending it. I've never seen this before.
How do you explain what Bruno shows up there? First you say you have 20 million users, then 8, then 12, then 18, then 15. You are saying that you are growing 5 million users per month but nothing shows that other than your fake statistics and endless ridiculous PR schemes.
Marian Donadini
· 1 year ago
I use Sonico because it really respects privacy, and has interesting features!
Whats up with you guys? I´m a frequent reader of Mashable and putting Sonico subject aside,i think is very unpolite from Nozad, Behar and Bruno to deliberately call "PR IDIOT" or "Scam" or "First Class Crooks and liars" other people, lets keep Mashable a good and friendly place for exchanging information without offending. I do not know sonico to much cause i live in New Zealand but i´m sure that making a site like Sonico isnt easy nd that everybody deserve our respect, talking like that you just sound superfluous.
Its my humble opinion.
gordon behar
· 1 year ago
i understand and respect your opinion, but a lot of people work hard to actually build these communities and companies like these are what destroy the credibility of most entrepreneurs in Latin America. That is why the market is underrated and undervalued.
We have facts listed here by other posters that show their traffic and statements are total BS, so what we say makes sense.
Also, read the updated article of Sonico today in Mashable and you will see that they made a mistake writing this. You dig a little below the surface and you see they are full of s*.
Alejandro Sena
· 1 year ago
Mi cuenta > Notificaciones y todos los "problemas" de e-mails resueltos.
Sorry, this comments wasn't for Mashable (was for another blog posted here), something weird happened and ended up here. Just want to translate one thing:
My account > Notifications and all the "emails problems" are solved.
jardel
· 1 year ago
i agree with the "spammico" they discovered my email that i've created five days ago, i mean... i didn't even sent an email with it and they are already inviting me, very weird.
I know you probably will say that i don't know where i post my emails and bla bla bla, but also i never saw the girl that invited me four times.
conectados
· 1 year ago
There is no question Hi5 is the top #1 ranking social networking site for LATAM, I am in this space, I know.---they are dominating every country at this time.
Hi5: their ranking by country averages between #2-#7, Mexico being the largest LATAM internet market, which they are ranked #7.
Myspace and Facebook if you compare "by country" has a higher ranking then sonico.
Sonico: As respectable as being in a top 20 or 30 position in any country is, the reality sometimes difficult to swallow, Hi5 is kicking some straight social networking axx in Latam.
The hard numbers do not lie, well maybe a little, but not the difference between #7 compared to #37.
My congrats to both companies for their huge jump in growth over the last 12 months.
Have fun and best of luck to all.
--Rob
Ingrid
· 1 year ago
A friend (who's living in Latin America. I'm in Australia)invited me to Sonico and I noticed they ask you for your e-mail password "just to invite your contacts to be part of your network in Sonico". I don't know, but... Is it legal to ask for your e-mail password even if the question says "optional"? I didn't give them my password, though I'm receiving emails from my contacts inviting ME to Sonico, now. Is it weird? I wonder if this happened to other users.
APOLO QUANT
· 1 year ago
excellent
Tom
· 1 year ago
Sonico is sending me email. I did not sign up there. I speak neither Spanish nor Portuguese. If there is an unsubscribe for the subscribe that I did not sign up for I can’t read it. I can’t find an English language page. Since I do not speak the languages I can not navigate an unsubscribe page, if it exists, neither could have I navigated a subscribe page.
I just want them to stop sending the e-mail. I would call it spam as I did not sign up for it.
They are difficult to deal with. I suspect that they bought a spamers list and signed up unsuspecting folks.
All Comments
And regarding information sources... I still prefer comScore, compete or quantcast than "street numbers"
And where's the rest of Latin American countries in your chart - dont those people matter to Sonico too?
I think this is a great example of a company probably using shady techniques to bump up their uniques. The April #s are clear proof that Sonico is manipulating their traffic.
That Juan Pablo is their PR idiot, who always posts defending their site. How pathetic.
The real juice on Sonico (or as we Latin Americans like to call it "Spammico") is the commentaries section of the article below:
http://www.analytics20.org/web-analytics/white-...
Brazil and Mexico account for 75% of the GDP of Latam. Hi5 is big in Peru, but last year this country had 4 million dollars in online revenues. Guess where it makes sense to grow?
To "gordon behar".
Scam? Clearly we a have a couple of haters chasing Sonico because they think that kick starting a social network with other properties is not genuine. Grow up and read how myspace and bebo started in the first place. In the meantime we continue to create a great product for latam users.
To "Alex nozad"
We are finishing up the open social container as we speak, we are going to be in production in 30 days.
Spammico? I guess if facebook spams the hell of your inbox with vampire emails or fun wall stuff, that is no problem? Maybe having to invite people to actually use certain applications is not spam aswell? Or hi5 tricking you to put your login/password and spam your whole list of friends.
Do i smell a double standard because we are from latam?
At Sonico we have been extremely careful with all this and that's why we have been able to create a community of real people with real connections.
Bruno, clearly you have some personal issues with sonico... be happy to clarify them to you directly... ceo@sonico.com
I'm traveling right now.. see you in a couple of hours :)
To all the rest of the millions of Sonico users, they know how hard we work to get new improvements and new applications on the site on a weekly basis.
If you are not in, try us out!! :)
Rodrigo already replied to your statements.
Ad-Tech San Francisco (April 2008):
Sonico claims to have "18 million registered users"
http://www.ad-tech.com/sf/adtech_san_francisco_...
Sonico Blog (May 2008 and this writeup today):
Sonico claims to have "15 million registered users"
blog.sonico.com
Rodrigo, can you explain the 3 MILLION user difference? Typo? Another brilliant marketing scheme?
On your proposal it would be great to meet you, but I am too busy deleting all the spam emails from your site (they dont call you Spammico for no reason!) and closing all the annoying popups you guys put out throughout the market, everyone knows traffic is dirt cheap in Latam but your engagement levels i'm sure are more interesting than the 150k new users a day! Man, you guys really do "grow" like Myspace(?) ;)
More on Spammico from Latin Americans who actually have been on the site (sorry, in Spanish but run Google translator):
http://www.enelmedioblog.com/2008/05/14/sonico-...
How do you explain what Bruno shows up there? First you say you have 20 million users, then 8, then 12, then 18, then 15. You are saying that you are growing 5 million users per month but nothing shows that other than your fake statistics and endless ridiculous PR schemes.
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A...
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A...
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/16/sonico-the...
bubble2.0+spam+socialnetworks+trytogetamillionlyingtoinvestors=SONICO
Its my humble opinion.
We have facts listed here by other posters that show their traffic and statements are total BS, so what we say makes sense.
Also, read the updated article of Sonico today in Mashable and you will see that they made a mistake writing this. You dig a little below the surface and you see they are full of s*.
Y la utilidad o no de una red social se da, justamente, por tu red. LinkedIn no serÃa muy útil si tenés un solo contacto, lo mismo sucede con todas.
Saludos,
Ale
My account > Notifications and all the "emails problems" are solved.
they discovered my email that i've created five days ago, i mean... i didn't even sent an email with it and they are already inviting me, very weird.
I know you probably will say that i don't know where i post my emails and bla bla bla, but also i never saw the girl that invited me four times.
Hi5: their ranking by country averages between #2-#7, Mexico being the largest LATAM internet market, which they are ranked #7.
Myspace and Facebook if you compare "by country" has a higher ranking then sonico.
Sonico: As respectable as being in a top 20 or 30 position in any country is, the reality sometimes difficult to swallow, Hi5 is kicking some straight social networking axx in Latam.
The hard numbers do not lie, well maybe a little, but not the difference between #7 compared to #37.
My congrats to both companies for their huge jump in growth over the last 12 months.
Have fun and best of luck to all.
--Rob
I don't know, but... Is it legal to ask for your e-mail password even if the question says "optional"?
I didn't give them my password, though I'm receiving emails from my contacts inviting ME to Sonico, now. Is it weird?
I wonder if this happened to other users.
I just want them to stop sending the e-mail. I would call it spam as I did not sign up for it.
They are difficult to deal with. I suspect that they bought a spamers list and signed up unsuspecting folks.
Tom