Similar fees are collected in Germany by "VG Wort" on copiers, burners, scanners - just about any device that is remotely fit to copy texts
Jon Smirl
· 1 year ago
The fee can't be involuntary on each ISP. I have two houses with different ISPs and my wife and I are on different phone systems. That's would make me pay the fee four times.
One fair method of splitting the fees would be based on revenues from live performance. You want more from the fees, get on the road and tour. That would also sort things out when bands tour out of their home country. Just sending the fee to the RIAA shuts out indie bands and bands signed by RIAA organizations in other countries.
My favorite is to get the RIAA out of retail and instead license web sites on a wholesale basis. It's then up to the web site to figure out how to pay the RIAA. Note that the monetization point in music is when it is being browsed and selected, not when it is being played.
Jake Lockley
· 1 year ago
And what if you don't share music online?
What about movies? Television? Video games? Would there be separate charges for sharing each online?
And how aboiut books? A separate charge for books too?
Would there be an exception for those on welfare, or rather should I say, those who must manage needs before wants?
And what if someone only shares underground or independent media, would the RIAA suddenly be able to get paid for their work too?
What if someone doesn't share or listen to music online? Will this work like the cable companies that charge people for channels they never watch in order to be "fair"?
And how would this affect all of the online music services which stream music and media, would the RIAA be forced to suddenly subsidize their businesses so consumers aren't charged twice? (rings of a monopoly or dare I say an irrelevent monarchy).
What do you think Apple will have to say about something like this? Or any company that licenses media?
The RIAA needs to realize they are going to/have caused a revolution, and revolutions always favor the lowest common denominator (not them). The lawyers and media executives will be the ones taken out and hung by the people, not the political leaders. I'll happily stand in line to spit on their eviscerated burning corpses; that I'd pay for!
Their B2C business model is obsolete and the only way it will survive is if they force a socialist model upon the consumers or violate the principals of a free market.
Who'd have thought it would be the entertainment industry that becomes Big Brother? The free market (and free media) is about competition; competition of content as well as business models; and they can no longer compete with an Army of Davids who can justifiably do their jobs better and cheaper and than they.
Back when they forced us to pay for a whole album to get one song is when they should have started to change their business model but they didn't, they missed the boat and Steve Jobs beat them to it.
They should have read The Third Wave (by Alvin Toffler) which predicted consumers as producers 30 years ago instead of spending their time indulging themselves in decadence and exploiting their power.
Viva la Revolucion! (tongue in cheek)
randulo
· 1 year ago
Many countries do this, and ironically, when I was recording my own demos to send out (years ago) I was paying myself royalties on each cassette tape! Musicians really need to get together online, we have the power to do it, get a site that can handle all these things and dismiss the RIAA, a group whose time has never come and is now gone. They make it sound like the creators of content get the money, which is largely NOT true as most of us know. The RIAA is just another finger in the pie and should be abandoned for a serious, web-aware alternative whther voluntary or not.
By the way, like another poster above, I have 4 DSL connections including business and home. I never download music (except a very occasional legal download free or paid). It would be seriously unfair for me to financially support this initiative even if I thought it was a good idea, which I do not.
Mio
· 1 year ago
That would also sort things out when bands tour out of their home country.
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One fair method of splitting the fees would be based on revenues from live performance. You want more from the fees, get on the road and tour. That would also sort things out when bands tour out of their home country. Just sending the fee to the RIAA shuts out indie bands and bands signed by RIAA organizations in other countries.
My favorite is to get the RIAA out of retail and instead license web sites on a wholesale basis. It's then up to the web site to figure out how to pay the RIAA. Note that the monetization point in music is when it is being browsed and selected, not when it is being played.
What about movies? Television? Video games? Would there be separate charges for sharing each online?
And how aboiut books? A separate charge for books too?
Would there be an exception for those on welfare, or rather should I say, those who must manage needs before wants?
And what if someone only shares underground or independent media, would the RIAA suddenly be able to get paid for their work too?
What if someone doesn't share or listen to music online? Will this work like the cable companies that charge people for channels they never watch in order to be "fair"?
And how would this affect all of the online music services which stream music and media, would the RIAA be forced to suddenly subsidize their businesses so consumers aren't charged twice? (rings of a monopoly or dare I say an irrelevent monarchy).
What do you think Apple will have to say about something like this? Or any company that licenses media?
The RIAA needs to realize they are going to/have caused a revolution, and revolutions always favor the lowest common denominator (not them). The lawyers and media executives will be the ones taken out and hung by the people, not the political leaders. I'll happily stand in line to spit on their eviscerated burning corpses; that I'd pay for!
Their B2C business model is obsolete and the only way it will survive is if they force a socialist model upon the consumers or violate the principals of a free market.
Who'd have thought it would be the entertainment industry that becomes Big Brother? The free market (and free media) is about competition; competition of content as well as business models; and they can no longer compete with an Army of Davids who can justifiably do their jobs better and cheaper and than they.
Back when they forced us to pay for a whole album to get one song is when they should have started to change their business model but they didn't, they missed the boat and Steve Jobs beat them to it.
They should have read The Third Wave (by Alvin Toffler) which predicted consumers as producers 30 years ago instead of spending their time indulging themselves in decadence and exploiting their power.
Viva la Revolucion! (tongue in cheek)
Musicians really need to get together online, we have the power to do it, get a site that can handle all these things and dismiss the RIAA, a group whose time has never come and is now gone. They make it sound like the creators of content get the money, which is largely NOT true as most of us know. The RIAA is just another finger in the pie and should be abandoned for a serious, web-aware alternative whther voluntary or not.
By the way, like another poster above, I have 4 DSL connections including business and home. I never download music (except a very occasional legal download free or paid). It would be seriously unfair for me to financially support this initiative even if I thought it was a good idea, which I do not.