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Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Steve Krause — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:38:08 -0000

"John Reese has provided nothing more than valuable content throughout his Internet career."

I'm guessing you're a fan? By the above statement it seems like you've used his products. Instead of just taking pot shots at Mark why not share your success story, since you've obviously have been blessed by his "valuable content".

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Steve Krause — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:30:01 -0000

"If Reese can prove that his Web 2.0 effort delivers all his customers a "RUSH OF TRAFFIC TO THEIR BLOGS," and he can prove that he hasn't ever written an e-book to move product, and he can prove that he hasn't exaggerated in any of his responses to me here, then I'll take back what I said about him (since that's basically what I've said about him)"

I have to seriously agree with Mark on this one. For all of the people in these comments that are rushing to save the image of John Reese (some of which are probably on his email list), most are saying, "Johns rich so he's who we should believe". But I haven't seen one say, "Johns product is good, I've used it to generate traffic. Oh yeah, and he's rich further proving that he's a good guy".

I'd just like to see one comment defending John with some actual supporting points. If he's your hero and you've used his stuff, what's your domain? I'd like to see your compete.com score.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Evan W. — Fri, 29 May 2009 12:35:24 -0000

Anyone that pays for anything to help guide to make money in affiliate marketing is unfortunately falling victim to this type of thing...

Yes Social media and affiliate marketing go hand and hand.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

juanita — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:03:42 -0000

Well,
I am not rich and I still agree with John. Mark did no one teach you that if you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything? Stop wasting your time bashing someone else and use that time to uplift, encourage, teach and (this word is getting old, but it fits) empower someone to help themselves and others.
hugg,hugg
j

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

John Morris — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:40:06 -0000

"Truth isn't absolute anymore."

Truth has never been absolute. It's contextual. There's a BIG difference. Check it out... it might shed some light on this "debate" for you!

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

R jihsu — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:08:39 -0000

Many people have been marvelling enviously at the growing Online affiliate programs have a track record of being very successful Many online sellers are increasingly relying on the method of affiliate marketing for promoting their products or services
where they signup affiliates and give a particular affiliate link and an affiliate ID to them to promote certain products. On the other hand, those affiliates who promote the brand are also
earning huge money and earn revenue on sale commission basis.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Larry — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:14:00 -0000

Hey all,

Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth.
I'm not really sure what Duncan and Marks problem is.

After reading the original posts, it seems to me they are simply grasping at straws to find something to discredit John.

What puzzles me is why.

It almost sounds as if they are angry that he would
tell the "secret" of Twitter.

Attacking someone who has done nothing to provoke it is an incredible waste of time, and energy.

Of course, I had never heard of either of them before now so, maybe that's their reasoning.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Alec Kinnear — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:53:26 -0000

So it looks like John Reese did send his followers over here to shout and pound their chests.

A pity that it frightened Adam.

The sad part is that every word Mark wrote is absolutely true. There's no ground for apologies.

The sales letter for Traffic Secrets 1 was full of testimonials from grateful customers who were finally making it online. Real people, real photos, real websites.

I went to the trouble on checking on all of those testimonials.

Almost all of the websites gone. Most of the few people who could be traced had left online marketing altogether.

At that point it was clear that John Reese's methods are about making John Reese money.

End of story.

It's pretty much a pyramid scheme.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Frank — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:17:13 -0000

Mark, you seem quite against affiliate marketing but your using Zazzle!? Which is pay-per-lead. Isn't that quite similar.

John, if you want to claim to be honest. You should really re-write your copy. Stating BlogRush is 1:1 is very misleading. You show 5 adverts at time, so if the ratio is 1:1 then you should be getting 5 adverts shown?

You also show in your video that your ads are shown for 10 levels, and give examples of the first three without stating that the ratio changes as you go lower down. This is misleading.

MLM encourages people to convince others to get involved in the MLM aswell. Incentivising people to lie to those who trust them to make a few $$. I appreciate lots of things could be said to do that but I think MLM is quite manipulative.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

John L — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:44:41 -0000

I have never bought anything from John Reese but he has sent me loads of very useful information for FREE as he has for many many others. To start picking on someone because you don't like one of his FREE products or about his marketing advice is a bit rich. If there was anything dubious about John Reese, I reckon with the amount of people that trust or follow him then it would not take long for it to hit the pan. If Mark is a genius then he hasn't shown much of it here and has probably destroyed this blogs credibility with most people. Why he didn't just shut up rather than making more and more ridiculous comments that has probably alienated more people is not the mark of a genius or a very experienced writer. Anyone that was would have apologised for getting it completely wrong and shut up. It is obvious from these comments that it is close to 100% in favour of John Reese. What does that tell you ?

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Amit — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:41:08 -0000

Dude, if you're going to rip off a picture of me from my blog, at least have the decency to give a link back.

-Amit

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Joseph Ratliff — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:30:12 -0000

J-Mofo (lol)

I hope it wasn't cheese popcorn you burnt....

I laughed so hard when I read that....

I agree with you totally Proffatt

Mo-Joe (lol)

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Wendy Piersall — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:29:27 -0000

Adam, with all due respect, while you are 'pretty sure Mark was referring to Marketing of Affiliate Marketing for money', that is absolutely not clear in this post (and even less clear to someone who doesn't know Mark as you do).

I believe you realize the influence of the blog you have here, and how many hundreds, if not thousands, of people can take his words out of context and believe that any site with an affiliate link is out to scam them.

This was very irresponsible writing.

And this has nothing to do with John Reese, I hardly know the guy. This is just about misleading your readers about an industry that should not have to justify themselves to Mark in the first place.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Adam Hirsch — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:21:58 -0000

As COO of Mashable, I feel I must chime in here:
1. Mark was in the wrong, as it's our policy not to personally bash/attack anyone

2. To many of the comments, Mark is not a "baby"/"hippie"/"misread"... He is actually quite a genius and a very experienced writer.

3. Affiliate Links and Marketing is definitely awesome, aka Amazon, Ebay, etc... However, I'm pretty sure Mark was referring to Marketing of Affiliate Marketing for money.

Long story short, the internet is an wealth of information and you really don't have to pay for much/anything these days to learn how to do proper Affiliate Marketing... At the same time though, there is SOO Much information out there, that paying for a "consultant"/expert is definitely worth some people's money.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Nancy Nally — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:12:29 -0000

Lumping together affiliate marketing and MLM is like lumping together your local Walgreen's to those internet mail order pharmacies that sell steroids to athletes. Sure, they are both technically pharmacies...but the association ends there.

I use affiliate accounts on my websites. Do you want to know why? Because a lot of my content is devoted to writing about - and thus promoting - other peoples' products. I finally decided that I wasn't put on this planet to promote other peoples' products for free and so I signed up with some affiliate marketing programs like Amazon.com. Not everything that I write about is available through an affiliate program that I belong to, but when it is, I think that it is only fair that I get a small percentage of a sale that I generate as compensation for the work I put in that generated it.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Nick Schmidt — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:05:24 -0000

Love is all we need..

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Kuntau — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:42:01 -0000

John Reese deserve FULL POST of apology from you jealousy kid..

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Wendy Piersall — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:38:24 -0000

Anger and vendettas aside, I'm absolutely shocked that you would say that MLM and Network Marketing is in the same business as Affiliate Marketing.

You are spreading misinformation that is dangerous and irresponsible for a blog as influential as Mashable.

Target, Best Buy, Amazon, Disney, and HBO all run affiliate programs. To state that these corporations are employing shady marketers to promote their products is at best laughable, and quite honestly makes you look completely uninformed and not credible.

Affiliate Marketing is no different than commissioned sales. Affiliates are paid when a commission is made.

Is a commission paid to people that sell advertising for Mashable?

Yeah, I thought so.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Seb — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:26:32 -0000

Wow, that is REALLY low, what a lowlife you must be Mark... Also insanely jealous of John's success by the sound of it.

I've known John's work for YEARS now and it has helped me many times, actually more like DAILY for some of the stuff he taught me...

I think anybody that followed this little number of yours can clearly see what is happening here and who's the real sensationalist.

Seb

PS: Your blog sucks and I won't be back... Is there ANY MORE ways in which you could plaster it with ads? You have a pretty big mouth for somebody thats obviously trying to make as much cash as possible without any regard for actual content or readability..

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

denise — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:37:56 -0000

You may not believe this but I visited Mashable for the first time last night. I ended up reading until 2 a.m.

I just wrote an article on my blog about how I feel about affiliate marketers. Seems we have that in common.

Love this blog.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Cheryl — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:46:51 -0000

I see so many things wrong here! First of all I have never heard of any of the parties involved except John Reese until reading this article.
I am actually on John Reese's "list" along with many other "gurus" & various internet/affiliate marketers. I personally don't have anything against John Reese but I will state that I have never purchased anything from him & I have read only some of his writings.
I have been studying internet & affiliate marketing for quite some time now.I have personally observed & experienced alot of spam, some questionable practices, as well as just outright lies in this industry. One could also say every industry has dishonesty & I would agree. What's different about this industry though is the idea either spoken or implied that one can get "rich" quite easily without much effort.
I believe in a person's right if not happy with a product or service to say so. I mean if he said AT & T ripped him off would y'all jump on the band wagon to defend AT & T? I doubt it? What is most disturbing is this trend I am seeing online, in the IM world, where people are jumping to defend someone while overlooking some bad behaviors by that person they are defending.

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

SportsBizGuy — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:44:57 -0000

"God forbid John sends this out to his list. We could literally see the end of Mashable's credibility almost instantly."

Hahah. RIIIIGHT..

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Facey Spacey Development — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:42:57 -0000

I thought BLOG RUSH had closed down. How has it worked out for everyone really?

James
from
FaceySpacey.com - "The Startup Incubator"

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

Bobby B — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:33:50 -0000

Mark,

When will you take responsibility for your blog traffic failures and quit blaming it on a free widget and John Reese?

You know good and well the reason your traffic from Blogrush was so limited was because your headlines sucked.

Very few found it interesting enough to click through and read your posts...

The ones that happened to click through did not find your content interesting enough to come back for more nor tell anyone else about it.

So the real issue here is your lack of skills in marketing your blog to potential readers, and maintaining an interested audience with quality content, not John Reese's free widget.

It's a tool that has worked great for many others who take responsibility for their virtual real estate and have sharpened up their skills to get the desired results.

Blogrush didn't fail... you did. Take responsibility and quit acting like a whiny victim.

Sharpen up on your marketing and your content and maybe your unfulfilled dreams of untold riches, wealth, and traffic will finally come true...

People will pay big money for high quality content that helps them.

Last time I checked, cynicism and negative opinions don't pay much. It's widely available and has no value to anyone.

If that's the product you're pushing, you'll be broke fast.

Focus on how you can improve instead of trying to belittle and shift the blame to others whose success is evident to all.

That would be interesting quality content for your readers...

Bobby B

Re: Does Affiliate Marketing Mix with Social Media?

John Reese — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:23:25 -0000

After reading my comment above I wanted to clarify something. In re:abortion example I was trying to say being passionately against it and then aiding in the process; i.e. taking someone to the clinic. (The wording above sounded strange.)

In hindsight I also realize this was a horrible example to use and didn't mean to come off as insensitive towards such a serious matter; so I apologize to anyone that has been faced with such an important life decision.

The point I was trying to make was that it just doesn't make sense to be so strongly against something yet be involved with it somehow. There are certainly exceptions to anything, but the core logic doesn't add up.

But either way I'm done with this whole 'debate' with Mark. I apologized and spoke my peace. Now it's time to move on to more positive things.

~John