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Also, myspace setup just sucks period. Never liked the look of the website and it is so difficult to design for. I am content with working with it as long as it is an eventual benefit of music, but becoming a monopoly definitely is another huge minus against myspace.
It's not that Myspace can pick and choose which indie artist to promote - there's too many -- but to run the web like a brick&mortar store, with paid placement, isn't the right way either. And their indie advertising initiative is rediculous -- .25 cpc with a $25 min buy-in?? Rediculous. That's not being for those who helped build you into what you are, that's taking a s*it on them because they aren't some big signed artists with unlimited investment dollars from the labels. There needs to be some parity.
Did I say that the 'long tail' sucks? Sure it's great in the totals -- but for those artists that are only selling a few cd's a month, it sucks.
In short, MySpace should've went FIRST to the indie, reached out to them and gave them prominent placement as a payback to building the site to begin with - the majors should've been secondary to the overall plan. But money talks and talk walks.
This is not the best launch, but its a step in the right direction. The blog post and press said they are still filling in the catalog and services. They clearly favored the idea of getting this out NOW rather than getting it out when it was perfect. I dont think that was a wrong move. I've always enjoyed MySpace for Music, and now, any time I find a band I like, I dont have to save the link on my own, I just click the button and save it in a playlist for later listening. That alone has made me spend hours & hours more on the site than I have in a long time.
As for what's featured in the playlist section, who cares? Not really interested in what they feature. But did you happen to notice the golden nugget that shows you the last 100 songs your FRIENDS added? Now that's some good stuff. That's what MySpace & music should be about - music my friends are listening to, and that's working well. I already found some cool stuff that my friends were listening to. The old system only showed it in friend updates and they were gone if you didn't login to see it right away. Now it shows the last 100 songs... very nice.
it would have been nice if myspace added every indie artist, but artists can add whatever songs they want individually, or only a few if they choose. that's even better, i think.
Since the player upgrade, the Count's have been dramatically off. It's very very very bad, because alot of artist do not know their Popularity condition and this is messing with alot of people's time and money right now.
My questions to myspace are:
• WHY aren't you telling us anything about this ?
• How long will this last, so far it's been 5 days with broken statistics. Do you have plans to fix this ?
I've developed atleast 3 artists myspace pages because of their new release. The day I put the pages up, myspace updates the new player. How can these artists tell if their new release is popular at all ? they can't and this is extremely f**ked up !
p.s. - Isn't it weird how The Face of The Myspace Matrix is "Tom Anderson" just like Neo a.k.a Mr. Anderson
What you're looking at is the classic stripped down V1.0, speced to get something out into them market place rather than built with all of the desired features available from day 1.
basically your post can be summed up thusly: lack of vision and innovation. myspace music will never be a great service unless they get some real, visionary technical leadership. unfortunately for them the real visionaries have no incentive whatsoever to work with them, and plenty of disincentives. one of the latter is the fact that it is impossible to cut a deal with the major record labels that actually serves the interests of artists and fans. the bottom line is that the innovation and value you seek will simply not be coming out of anyone in that camp, or allied with them. see the details on the demise of the original muxtape (http://muxtape.com) if you still have any lingering doubts.
this post was not sponsored by mcdonalds, thank god.
So stop talking crap because you don't like the "layout" or something. Myspace allows the users to take control of what they want to be shown or heard on their page, and they can do what they want. That's why so many people chose myspace in the first p lace hun.
They're allegedly in negotiations with several niche hubs, it'll be interesting to see how the next two weeks play out.
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Social Network Users Less Receptive To Advertising, IDC Survey finds
24 Nov 2008
FRAMINGHAM, Mass., November 24, 2008 – More than half of U.S. consumers with Internet access use social networking services (SNS), such as Facebook and MySpace, and penetration will continue to grow. According to a new study from IDC, consumers are also spending ever-greater amounts of time on SNS, a fact that has advertisers drooling over the opportunity represented by SNS.
IDC found that consumers who use SNS also tend to visit the services often and spend a lot of time per visit. More than three quarters of SNS users visit at least once a week, and no less than 57% visit at least once a day. During each session, 61% of SNS users spend at least 30 minutes on the respective site or stay logged in permanently, and 38% spend at least one full hour per session (or stay logged in).
There are four major reasons why consumers use SNS: to connect and communicate; in response to peer-pressure; for entertainment; and for work-related purposes. Advertising does not factor into consumer motivations. In fact, users are less tolerant of SNA advertising than the best tolerated forms of online advertising. Ads on SNS have lower click-through rates than traditional online ads (on the Web at large, 79% of all users clicked on at least one ad in the past year, whereas only 57% of SNS users did), and they also lead to fewer purchases (Web: 23%; SNS 11%).
"The thinking has been that the popularity of SNS will attract a big audience and generate a lot of traffic, which in turn will produce enormous amounts of user-generated content (UGC) and therefore advertising inventory – without any expenses for editorial staff or content distribution deals," said Karsten Weide, program director, Digital Marketplace: Media and Advertising. "All of the above has proven true – except that almost invariably, SNS have had a hard time selling this inventory."
One of the potential benefits of SNS that the advertising industry has discussed is whether peoples’ connections (i.e., whom a user knows or is linked to) could be used for advertising. For instance, publishers could show a car manufacturer's ads to a user's contacts because that user's online behavior has indicated that she is interested in a particular brand of cars. Anecdotally, there has been some indication that this "social advertising" might be more effective than behavioral targeting. However, that idea is stillborn. Of all U.S. Internet users, only 3% would allow publishers to use contact information for advertising.
IDC expects that lower-than-average ad effectiveness on SNS will continue to contribute to slow ad sales unless publishers get users to do something beyond just communicating with others. If the major services succeed in doing so, they will become more like portals, such as Yahoo! or MSN, and they will come closer to the audience reach of the top services. If that happened, publishers would be better able to monetize their SNS.
The recently released IDC report, U.S. Consumer Online Attitudes Survey Results Part III (IDC #214899), examines SNS audience reach compared to mainstream services, such as Google and Yahoo!, the demographics of SNS users, and consumer tolerance for SNS advertising compared to online advertising in general.
DALLAS, TX — November 20, 2008 — Despite the cultural phenomenon that Facebook and MySpace have become in five years’ time, 55% of the chief marketing officers at leading brands surveyed by Epsilon said they’re not too interested (22%), or not interested at all (33%), in incorporating the social networking sites into their marketing strategies.
Though dialogue marketing is a bonafide trend in the industry, just 10% percent of CMO survey respondents said they already are using these social sites in their marketing plans.
Internet forums (52%), webcasts and podcasts (47%), email (47%), blogs (37%) and webinars (52%) outscored Facebook and MySpace (35%), in terms of being social media elements that marketing executives said they are very interested or somewhat interested in using.
“These sites narrowly appeal to college and high school students, providing a challenge as far as measuring results and yielding a limited amount of actionable data,†said Steve Cone, Chief Marketing Officer of Epsilon.
Somewhat quixotically, 27% of marketing executives identified social networking and word of mouth as the tool they most want to introduce to their marketing mix to compensate for anticipated budget cuts -- ahead of all other elements of traditional or digital marketing.
Epsilon is a leading marketing services firm providing comprehensive online and offline marketing services to some of the most-recognized brands in the world. Its late-October online survey was completed by top consumer and business-to-business marketing executives at 180 brands whose annual revenues range from $250 million to over $10 billion. The survey was conducted by GfK Roper Public Affairs and Media, of New York.
Other key results from the CMO survey provide a peek into top marketers’ playbooks for the coming year:
• CMOs bracing for budget reductions identified email as the channel they are least likely to cut back on versus any other tool in the traditional or digital marketing mix.
• While just over half of the companies surveyed already use consumer data mining, 23% more said that they plan to utilize the technology in the next 12 months.
• 55% of those not already employing web analytics plan to do so in the next 12 months.
• Customer loyalty and rewards programs remain polarizing, with 33% of companies already using the strategy and 17% planning to use in the next year, but 50% not using or planning to use.
Kevin Mabley, Senior Vice President, Epsilon Strategic Services, noted the value that marketers place on email. “According to our latest benchmark statistics, retailers see 20 cents in e-commerce revenue for every email delivered, showing the measurability and profitability of the email channel in times when people are seeking those two attributes.â€
The CMO survey results strongly indicate the economic crisis will diminish marketing spending in 2009. No less than 93% of marketing executives said the current state of the economy will have a moderate or significant impact on their marketing efforts in the next few months. Regarding advertising expenditures specifically, 70% said they’ll decrease spending.
Epsilon released the results of their first CMO survey in early September 2008. The report and press release “Survey Records Shift in Blue Chip Marketing Spend†can be found at http://www.epsilon.com/modules/Press-Releases-9....