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Re: Adobe Gets the Press But Does Search No Favors

Mike Schuler — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:55:06 -0000

i'm just a person. Your search engine does me no favors

Re: Adobe Gets the Press But Does Search No Favors

Samiq — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:45:56 -0000

SEO for RIA: the status a few days later :

[And making echo of Steven Hodson from Mashable!

Search is not - or should not be - about the companies. It should be about all the companies being able to provide the best results they can to anyone who wants to use any search engine they choose]

http://bits.samiq.net/2008/...

Re: Adobe Gets the Press But Does Search No Favors

Facey Spacey Technologies — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:04:18 -0000

Well, I personally am hoping that this announcement means they'll Adobe et all will address all the said issues, e.g: so you click search result for a flash file and it opens up that web-page with the exact place in the timeline of the flash file that the searched for text appears.

I would assume that exactly what they are working on is to finally address that issue. Would you guys disagree?

James
from
FaceySpacey.com - "The Startup Incubator"

Re: Adobe Gets the Press But Does Search No Favors

Tim Nash — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:18:41 -0000

To really add to Andy comment, this is not a major event, a major event would have been to admit that Flash/Flex designer developers need to change their ways to develop Search engine friendly sites and to provide tools for them to do so. Until Adobe and Google agree a method of headings and other ranking factors their is no way Google can truly rank a flash file. That is of course if they can get beyond the fact a flash file is an object who's basis is time based while pages and websites in general are flat and interlinked these are two very separate objects matching them is not going to be easy!

Re: Adobe Gets the Press But Does Search No Favors

Egbert — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:36:35 -0000

scobleizer.com is thinking the same...
Google and Adobe just want to fight Silverlight

http://scobleizer.com/2008/...

Re: Adobe Gets the Press But Does Search No Favors

Egbert — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:22:13 -0000

I`m concerned about the consequences as well...

Depending on how they implement the search feature, it could add a new dimension to search engine spam. Imagin how many words you could include within a flash document without screwing up your layout.... scary

Re: Adobe Gets the Press But Does Search No Favors

Facey Spacey Technologies — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:09:49 -0000

Steven,

They must be planning on releasing an API to the public eventually. Otherwise, I don't think MS would turn the offer down, thinking it a good decision to help Silverlight beat Flash. They know if Google supports searching flash, whether they support it or not won't make a difference at all. I think Adobe and co just want to kill MS and an potential of a silverlight threat--that's all.

The real question, as you say pretty much, is of course when do the little guys get access to the flash search APIs???

(note: I don't think it's wrong at all--it's common business tactics. The point is Adobe wants Google and Yahoo to expend significant resources in time, money etc to make this happen. So, it's not some big evil business tactic that is just "plain wrong" as you say. It's also a way to incentive making a useful technology widespread. A lot of people want to make claims about large companies doing all sorts of "evil" things, when in reality, the very nature of business is what propells the proper execution of things as well as innovation like this. So why should the little guy's get access to it, when Google will sooner allow us to search flash files by the incentive provided by Adobe??? It makes perfect sense to me, and I'm sure part of the plan is to open it up to smaller companies ine 6 months or a year, after which Google probably paved the way for everyone else!)

James
from
FaceySpacey.com - "The Startup Incubator"