DISQUS

Mashable - The Social Media Guide: 2007/12/05/secureworks-ron-paul-probably-not-a-spammer/

  • Eric · 2 years ago
    First!
  • BrianR · 2 years ago
    I would love to see more research on the Ron Paul campaign, this guy is doing very good at getting his name plastered all over the internet and we know that he does not have that much real support within the Republican party!

    I think it has something to do with anti-war support which will never end up in real votes for him as they will most likely be voting Dem across the board!

    They just want to push him to throw a wrench in the Republican primary!
  • Nidian · 2 years ago
    Wasn't this spammer identified? He is unlikely to be a Ron Paul supporter since he's Ukrainian. It wasn't like he was in the Yellow pages either.

    More likely he was hired by someone 'in the know' to make it seem like Ron Paul's support is spam. Unless there is more interest internationally in primary races than I realize. Then I guess he could be a r3VOLutionary.

    From the SecureWorks article:

    ...we are left asking the question, “who paid to have the Ron Paul spam sent and how did they connect with the spammer, “nenastnyj?” The evidence shows that despite being capable of sending upwards of 200 million messages a day, nenastnyj is not one of the major spammers of the world, and seems to focus on spamming as an affiliate for larger “kingpin” operations. The Ron Paul spam was very much a “one-off” job among the other tasks in the Reactor interface. It almost seems as though there may have been some pre-established relationship between the sponsor of the spam and nenastnyj. However, given the current state of law enforcement activity concerning spam in the countries of the CIS, it is unlikely we will get an answer to these questions...

    So, someone is playing dirty and it is not Ron Paul. Shocker.

    Ron Paul R3VOLution!
  • Mark \ · 2 years ago
    The interface for the botnet was in the CIS... that doesn't mean the user was there...

    Hence, my original conclusion probably stands. I'm not trying to impugne Paul, just reporting the facts.
  • Nidian · 2 years ago
    That's alright, did I sound too militant?

    I assumed he was Ukrainian because of this from PCWorld:

    Stewart published an analysis of the botnet on Tuesday, connecting it to an Eastern European spammer known as "spm," whose company, Elphisoft, sends unsolicited email using a network of about 3,000 infected "botnet" PCs.

    So, if I'm getting this right (forgive my ignorance) "spm" created the 'code' and this was recognizable work. Then "spm" used "nenastnyj" as a middle man.

    This is becoming quite a page-turner. Can anyone find more information on these guys?
  • Mark \ · 2 years ago
    You're probably not. I've been running at Red Alert since I did the YouTube debate post. Several folks (around 83 at last count) that don't like my political coverage. :)

    the way I read the original report, you're close.

    "spm" wrote the commonly used botnet software. An instance of the web-client was installed on a server in the ukraine. jobs for spammers were then run from the web client. one of the jobs was run for a fellow(?) named nenastnyj - that was the Ron Paul job.