Great! I'm still wearing my Blogger hoodie that I got for being a Blogger paying customer when Google bought them. Collectors item?
Ivan
· 2 years ago
Uh - oh! Don't hold yer breathe - it's 'US and Canada only'. So how's that for pissing your users off? At least Google had the grace to send my hoodie to the UK. Pissers.
Rick
· 2 years ago
First I had to register with Yahoo (I cancelled my Yahoo accounts when they started spamming under the cover of the CAN-SPAM act). Then I find out my "metro" Amsterdam (a city that should not be entirely unknown to Americans, even if they can't point it out on a map) has now become the province "Noord Holland" (like anybody in Amsterdam cares what if anything happens out there). And to top it all off, the free t-shirt is for North-Americans only.
I'm no marketing expert, but I don't think "we can't be bothered serving you eurotrash" is sound approach to maintaining customer loyalty...
Eric
· 2 years ago
Oh man. I litterally signed up for an account two days ago. I tried to use my yahoo signin, but it wouldn't let me. Jerks!
Andy Baio
· 2 years ago
Pete, I'm Andy Baio, the creator of Upcoming. I've been a Mashable reader for ages, and a bit bummed by this article. I don't think I've ever seen you so cynical!
Here's the thing. Once a startup gets acquired by a big company, it's very easy to sit back and blame the faceless corporation for every decision and change that happens. But the fact is, the rest of Yahoo! had no impact on our decisions.
We're still a small team and we make all decisions about the direction of the product. So every decision that you point out came from us, not from some Yahoo! executive.
And yeah, we very deliberately tried to avoid the backlash that Flickr saw by bundling inconvenience (switching to Yahoo! IDs) with new long-demanded features, a redesign, and a token of appreciation. Not as a trick, but out of respect for the community that uses the site we work on every day.
Also, I think it's a gross mischaracterization to call the community a bunch of hipsters. The community is far from elitist, and actually much more diverse than you think.
Anyway, Gordon posted this blog entry that gives some perspective into Upcoming. We're real people.
Ivan: We'd love to send shirts to everyone overseas, but it's not in our budget. The shipping ends up costing more than the shirts themselves, and we're not as loaded as Google.
kevin
· 2 years ago
andy, the old design was better. not sure why you guys went with the fixed width. (maybe let the user select fixed/fluid layout?)
best of luck though - you're one of my favorites out there.
jpick
· 2 years ago
Looks good.
I was pissed off about having to merge accounts, but I get a free T-Shirt.
Why can't Yahoo just use OpenID?
Luckily, I can use my old school screen name instead of my sucky Yahoo ID. If I had to sign up for a new account and use that as a screen name, I'd be less into it.
Ben Roodman
· 2 years ago
Congrats on the new look from the ImThere.com team.
PS. I'm looking forward to my shirt.
Ivan
· 2 years ago
Andy, You put a load of shirts in a container, ship them to Europe and send them on from there. I presume you're not personally stuffing shirts into envelopes in the US, so use the same system to get them sent in other parts of the world. Budget, schmudget.
Gordon
· 2 years ago
Ivan,
This is Gordon from Upcoming. As far as I can tell, we are most definitely personally stuffing shirts into envelopes, here in Santa Clara. Flickr's staff has done the same for their swag giveaways as well.
-Gordon
Pete Cashmore
· 2 years ago
Upcoming guys,
This is tongue in cheek. Obviously you needed to merge accounts with Yahoo at some point.
Neil Kandalgaonkar
· 2 years ago
@Rick: I understand the surprise, but it's because people near you *are* interested in those places. At least 20% of the events in the old "Amsterdam" metro were from outside the city limits.
In the old system, you had no choice, you'd have to deal with these irrelevant events because we didn't have enough metros.
Now you have a choice! You can just remove "Noord Holland" from your places and add "Amsterdam" to your places.
Want something even more specific? Now you could limit your search to districts within cities, like 'Jordaan', which seems to be a popular area for bars and restaurants in Amsterdam.
Anyway, sorry you had a jarring experience, but I hope this explains why we made the change.
rohan
· 2 years ago
hi
Shaiya
· 1 year ago
When I played the game for the first time ,I liked it deeply until present.In this game ,we can use the shaiya money and the shaiya gold .These shaiya money that if we got a upgrading ,maybe we could get a encourage for these shaiya money .But it is not the only way to get these shaiya money,we can also use the RMB to buy shaiya gold.
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Then I find out my "metro" Amsterdam (a city that should not be entirely unknown to Americans, even if they can't point it out on a map) has now become the province "Noord Holland" (like anybody in Amsterdam cares what if anything happens out there).
And to top it all off, the free t-shirt is for North-Americans only.
I'm no marketing expert, but I don't think "we can't be bothered serving you eurotrash" is sound approach to maintaining customer loyalty...
Here's the thing. Once a startup gets acquired by a big company, it's very easy to sit back and blame the faceless corporation for every decision and change that happens. But the fact is, the rest of Yahoo! had no impact on our decisions.
We're still a small team and we make all decisions about the direction of the product. So every decision that you point out came from us, not from some Yahoo! executive.
And yeah, we very deliberately tried to avoid the backlash that Flickr saw by bundling inconvenience (switching to Yahoo! IDs) with new long-demanded features, a redesign, and a token of appreciation. Not as a trick, but out of respect for the community that uses the site we work on every day.
Also, I think it's a gross mischaracterization to call the community a bunch of hipsters. The community is far from elitist, and actually much more diverse than you think.
Anyway, Gordon posted this blog entry that gives some perspective into Upcoming. We're real people.
Ivan: We'd love to send shirts to everyone overseas, but it's not in our budget. The shipping ends up costing more than the shirts themselves, and we're not as loaded as Google.
best of luck though - you're one of my favorites out there.
I was pissed off about having to merge accounts, but I get a free T-Shirt.
Why can't Yahoo just use OpenID?
Luckily, I can use my old school screen name instead of my sucky Yahoo ID. If I had to sign up for a new account and use that as a screen name, I'd be less into it.
PS. I'm looking forward to my shirt.
You put a load of shirts in a container, ship them to Europe and send them on from there. I presume you're not personally stuffing shirts into envelopes in the US, so use the same system to get them sent in other parts of the world. Budget, schmudget.
This is Gordon from Upcoming. As far as I can tell, we are most definitely personally stuffing shirts into envelopes, here in Santa Clara. Flickr's staff has done the same for their swag giveaways as well.
-Gordon
This is tongue in cheek. Obviously you needed to merge accounts with Yahoo at some point.
In the old system, you had no choice, you'd have to deal with these irrelevant events because we didn't have enough metros.
Now you have a choice! You can just remove "Noord Holland" from your places and add "Amsterdam" to your places.
Want something even more specific? Now you could limit your search to districts within cities, like 'Jordaan', which seems to be a popular area for bars and restaurants in Amsterdam.
Anyway, sorry you had a jarring experience, but I hope this explains why we made the change.