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The question is, who will suffer first...Youtube or the music labels?
The fact that rights haven't been respected up to now is irrelevant. (Should we go back to not allowing women and blacks the right to vote?)
That being said, I have really enjoyed listening to various artists on YouTube, that I would never have heard otherwise.
I hope that the folks at YouTube can come up with a good solution.
In the meantime maybe we can listen to the thousands of original recording artists out there who are really good and exceptionaly talented but that 'the industry' won't give the time of day to.
1) People will start returning to self hosting these sorts of videos. Yes there are bandwidth issues related to that, but there are a few good ways around that that I plan to write about in the near future.
2) People will start seeking out (and finding) off shore (ie- outside the US) video hosting services. Wherever you find a need, you'll quickly find someone to fill it and pick up the slack that Youtube and the like are not legally allowed to fill. There are many solutions to a variety of problems in the world, that do not involve the United States, it's companies or it's laws.
Neither of the above get past the moral issue of course, as you really shouldn't be using copyrighted music in your videos in the first place. The two coming solutions I mentioned above do not fix that issue, they merely allow people to continue to ignore it as they've previously been able to do on Youtube.
See source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJagb7hL0E
The labels have just created another way new bands can make it big without the labels. There will absolutely be more Numa-numa viral hits out there... the only difference now is, the music labels won't be a part them.
The river isn't kind to those who try to swim against the current. This isn't the day the music died, but it is the day the music labels were admitted to the hospice facility.
This is really sad. How could any artist say "no" to the music I chose (bought) in a slideshow I made in memory of my dog that died. The song is about a dog crossing over and going to heaven. The name of the song is "Little Doggie". This is a perfect example of how important the music is to a slideshow. Shame on whoever is responsible for not letting me use this song. I hope the music industry comes to their senses and lightens up. Any comments? Agree? Disagree?
Films that use music for some type of critique are more vulnerable. The real problem, is the DMCA, which favors established folks with deep pockets. A complaint puts all of the burden on the person using any music, many of whom are kids or struggling artists. Complaints can be filed frivolously, at a whim. Satire is a particularly vulnerable area because it is often critical, and there is a grey area as to what should be considered fair use. If you see something uncritical or unflattering of your music, that uses a piece of that music, just complain. The complaint will probably be stifled unless the person wishes to defend themselves. If they are poor, they probably won't. There's a mute on free speech that squashes dissent.
Vimeo, anyone?
Maybe the pirate bay can make a video sharing site knowing their stance on copyright.
When will copyright holders, especially those in the creative sphere, realize that inclusion in content is a word-of-mouth powerhouse on their side, not an offense? Ridiculous.
Artists and labels want control of their music. They don't want to be associated with user created content that may not be in line with their own views or public image. Public image goes a long way in the music industry. Just because it can be good publicity, doesn't mean it all would be. Think about how it really could be used and you should get where they are coming from, unless you really feel that entitled.
"...push the pool stick in your new crib, same hand that you hoop with, swing around like you stupid..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gWD4g63RNI
The purpose of copyright law is NOT to protect your work; that is a corollary. The purpose of copyright law is to foster creative works. Just because record companies can afford better lawyers is irrelevant.
The laws haven't been ignored; they've been interpreted differently.
http://www.urlesque.com/2009/01/15/youtube-chip...
If youtube doesnt fix this problem soon, people are going to stop using it. When myspace got corrup like that, everyoen left. I don't knwo a single person who uses it anymore. Youtube is going to be the same thing. Plus, when you do "audioswap", the songs are CRAP...sorry but it's true
"And the audioswap library is a piece of crap with all this stupid pop -_-"
You get what you payed for :-)
"I BOUGHT the music I used on itunes, and now they are saying I can’t use the song in a sideshow I made?"
No you *licensed* the music for limited personal use from iTunes, and that limited license never included universal sync rights.
It's not even sync rights, warner has pulled all their music from youtube, because they don't think they're getting compensated fairly. Clearly they're getting more money from myspace, lala and imeem and want to get an similar deal from youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBCqDvNpO2k
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I suggest about another 40+ million more of you do so as well. Enough of the games, music is part of our lives. You can't control everything. When will these fuktards learn that?
Their business model is WAY outdated, get with the times or die off dinosaur recording industry..
OTOH the fear of losing control you've grown accustomed to having is a powerful motivator in the absence of a positive goal to work towards. It's the source of most anxiety whether you're a music exec or some other kind of primate.
Carrots don't always beat sticks - it depends on the perceived size of each. The music industry believes they have everything to lose and diminishing returns to gain. And they're basically right, because their position is a bubble built on technological scarcity that no longer exists. Cornered animals don't generally behave well, and this will get more interesting before it's resolved. Sit back and enjoy the show.
OTOH the fear of losing control you've grown accustomed to having is a powerful motivator in the absence of a positive goal to work towards. It's the source of most anxiety whether you're a music exec or some other kind of primate.
Carrots don't always beat sticks - it depends on the perceived size of each. The music industry believes they have everything to lose and diminishing returns to gain. And they're basically right, because their position is a bubble built on technological scarcity that no longer exists. Cornered animals don't generally behave well, and this will get more interesting before it's resolved. Sit back and enjoy the show.
Muting Youtube videos is so petty. Why would someone download half a song which includes gun shots and background noise, the song is just there for effect! And respectively, the music is being advertised so what's the point of muting it.
I hope youtube see drop rates of users, maybe they'll realize that this copyright nuisance is pathetic and idiotic.
Muting Youtube videos is so petty. Why would someone download half a song which includes gun shots and background noise, the song is just there for effect! And respectively, the music is being advertised so what's the point of muting it.
I hope youtube see drop rates of users, maybe they'll realize that this copyright nuisance is pathetic and idiotic.
my youtube video is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otp8kvv2o7U
155 Full Ratings - Views: 28,454
This is the site that made my youtube videos famous:
http://www.viewtube.ws/
I hope this helps as it did help me so much :)
Anas
my youtube video is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otp8kvv2o7U
155 Full Ratings - Views: 28,454
This is the site that made my youtube videos famous:
http://www.viewtube.ws/
I hope this helps as it did help me so much :)
Anas
and it doesn't end there. have you tried downloading a youtube video lately?
and it doesn't end there. have you tried downloading a youtube video lately?
I am about to ban youtube i tell you.
I am about to ban youtube i tell you.
There's a song by Midnight Oil titled "Short Memory". It's true about this stuff too.
Artists have always riffed on the work of other artists. Classical music is a great example, as is rock music.
It IS creative to use another's work in a different way even if that is purely as background to something you've made. It's rather insulting to argue that someone has to write their own music to be creative - that would cut out Elvis to start with.
This is merely an example of over-reach. The companies don't want to NOT make money from what you do and so stop you from creating things from which YOU don't make money. The fact they'd get no money anyway is irrelevant. They can stop you and so they are - not because of loss of income, not because of concerns about the rights of the original artists, but because they can.
It's a shallow and transparent game they're playing, but they can do it and so they do. They're trying to work out how to make more money. They're not interested in fair use and they're not interested in broadening an audience to their product UNLESS they can see the dollar sign.
Any argument about protecting the authors rights are purely spurious.
As a funny side effect, I've seen music videos muted even from the artist's official channel.
I found an easy way to go around the automatic removal of the audio, so you can put it up there if you modify a small thing.
But then my question is : Can you expect anything worst then just being cancelled by YouTube ? Could the rights owner sue you ? Some people communicate small professional activities through little videos they put on YouTube and send to their clients that include their email or website adress. Could they risk a lawsuit ?