Yeah, and the del.icio.us feed it turned up on was interesting too.
But if you'd like me to link to you, please just ask politely - I'll happily oblige. For the origin of this discussion, please see this.
Muralikrishnan
· 3 years ago
Talk about a Social network that wants to grow by killing the ecosystem around it !
Dude ! its time to call the medics in !
Sam Davyson
· 3 years ago
I can't understand these people. Why can't they let someone else be a bit successful. The figures they claim seem rather generous. I can't believe that YouTube would really die. It is your one stop site for any video content AND it now has its own community.
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eoecho.com | Greg Magnus
· 3 years ago
Maybe YouTube should start a "parallel" service similar to MySpace. They can call it "MySpot." See MySpot run!
Doug Karr
· 3 years ago
We'll crush YouTube... how?
With the number of ads that you have on the screen? With bad usability? With terrible performance? With ugly interfaces? With spam for the users?
Just curious.
Sean Ammirati
· 3 years ago
This certainly exposes the risks of employing a business development 2.0 strategy.
s4ndm4n
· 3 years ago
Sorry about this plug but I say let myspace hurt itself. I dont' know what the craze is anyway. Everytime I look at someone's my space page I see an "eyesore" on the web.
Malcolm Murdoch
· 3 years ago
Murdoch got a good deal...
YouTube will remain the site to visit to try and run video. Don't know why MySpace are trying to muscle them out. From what I see, Youtube embed a video into Myspace's site (and pay for the bandwidth) and Myspace put an ad on the page and get money. Youtube gets a little bit of advertising and some brand loyalty.
Myspace can't sell all their inventory at the moment, so I don't know why they're trying to protect the small amount they're losing by allowing people to upload from youtube.
Kevin Clash
· 3 years ago
The Idea of having such tools (SayNow widget or Slide.Com pic slides) for us artists on Myspace and on the various other social sites is gr8!!!! The sheer amount of interesting/useful/fresh widgets around is fabulous... I only truly get to find out about the brilliant new stuff via Mashable (thanks Pete!!) I know Myspace and ALL the others check Mashable to get feedback and see what's goin on AND I would be T-H-E L-A-S-T to do Myspaces/News Corps underground user feedback for them BUT how can News Corp spend THAT amount of money buying the leading social network (brand) and NOT understand how the people who use it ACTUALLY operate??!! Young People/Young Minded LOVE new stuff and exclusive stuff and getting things 1st!! I put Meebo & Stickam widgets on my profiles without telling my friends and just waited for the reaction from them and others, as well as a Slide picture slide and Youtube video widget AFTER SEEING THEM ON MY FRIENDS PROFILES! not to mention a HotLayout layout... IT AINT NO DIFFERENT TO BUYING NEW FOOTWEAR/CLOTHES/MUSIC/GADGETS you wanna find stuff your friends (and others) DON'T HAVE!!!! cos you know they'll get one AFTER they've seen yours! Even if the content of your Video/Picture/Music widget is unique WHO wants to have the SAME widgets/gadgets/clothes etc etc as everyone else??!!... It's like buying ALL your stuff from Tesco or the mall??!! cutting the 3rd party eco-system out is SO stupid and Myspace/News Corp WILL pay for it in the end!! Young people don't give a s*@t about Myspace/News Corp they care about where they're friends are and where the cool, fresh stuff is that relates to THEM!!! Multi-nationals are, by definition, EXTREMELY GREEDY but to be seen as extremely greedy BULLIES in a social network populated by YOUNG people is EXTREMELY UNWISE.
1) Shouting the fact that News Corp, a massive multi-national giant, owned by a very clever, COLD & RUTHLESS 70?-80? year old Aussie businessman now owns the social "friends" site that was owned by a dude and his pals is NOT seen as cool
2) Having Peter Chernins MASSIVE corperate face beaming out next to the Myspace Logo saying "we'll crush YouTube" will in fact lead to people leaving Myspace for ANY social network that shows signs of being versatile, accomadating of the new and fun. YouTube can't be crushed it's already a name brand that has been seen in the "right places" ON COOL PROFILES on what HAS BEEN seen as the coolest space on the net!!... I think YouTube HAS TO start developing Myspace style features THEN let's see who will be crushed or "supported"
Myspace may well have been feeding the guts of the beast BUT the guts of the beast are what will keep Myspace alive in the end!!!!
Pete Cashmore
· 3 years ago
Kevin,
You seem to have left this comment on 2 posts - ok if I delete the duplicate? (It seems more relevant to this one than the SayNow post).
HP Dunlop
· 3 years ago
Your article is unfair and biased and ignores what Chernin actually said. He said nothing abotu BLOCKING other companies or halting the progressino of Web 2.0. He simply said that MySpace intends to improve its own feature set - namely, the video section. Read it here and pay more attention if you're going to call yoruself a journalist:
This is not unlike Microsoft taking on more and more application space on it's OS. It got out MS Word, kicked Word Star and Work Perfect's bottom. It got out Excel, that kicks Lotus off the wagon.
Looking at the harddisk industry, they also did vertical integration with their business, they took over the role of 3rd party component maker's role in order to make better, larger and faster storage.
It's just what it is, the coming of age of the platform itself that's large enough to be a monopoly and attempting to control the "parasites" that's "sucking it's blood". Natrually they will not remember that the 3rd party tools basically help to keep the beast going. Now the beast is strong enough to walk alone, time for the 3rd party companies to grow up with their own niche or diversify to other social network sites as well.
hcheng13
· 3 years ago
Revolt against MySpam! If they're so innovative, why not spend some time on spam filters. I get so much spam from them...it seems all the "girls" on myspace are looking to get to know me. LOL
phil tadros
· 3 years ago
MySpace is Special! Just Like Santa Clause was..
Until you learn more and more and more,
then one day your like fuck myspace and Santa Clause damit’
Check your facts, myspace wasn't written by some dude and his friends. It was written by a company that specialized in spam and virulent marketing. They came up with the "Tom's just some dude" marketing campaign and it worked quite well. People still believe it.
Check the comments at the bottom of that ValleyWag article. That "journalist" had a hard time putting together a coherent, useful, or even factually accurate article. He also had a hard time accepting the (perfectly legitimate) criticism, as evidenced by his tantrum in the middle of the comments section. MySpace, while a hotbed for spammers, actually got big by sponsoring concerts.
You really think they will ban 3rd party layouts and codes? That would make Myspace not "my" space anymore... They would never be able to provide layouts and codes like 3rd party sites.
Pete Cashmore
· 3 years ago
Sebastian,
I think if they did, they'd be screwed. They may get away with blocking more of the Flash widgets, or having some kind of "approved addons" scheme, but I don't see that happening in the near future.
Of all the comments, I must say that I agree with doug karr's posted on 9/13/07.
How are you gonna do it News Corp. Yea Myspace is behemoths of social networks online. Sure youtube grew out of your backyard and many more back end channel developments.
How!
The amount of spam I receive from Myspace, I don't even logon any more.
the performance with downtime and other technicalities are every few hours!
how are you gonna crush youtube?
25% of members with profiles are not even real.
I say look out myspace for the next big social network that will enter the game with already pre-screened blocks on all these technicalities.
The main reason for Myspace being so large is because they let everyone in. And thousands of other web 2.0 junkies and other companies uses myspace as a gateway.
Start closing the door, on everyone and maybe you'll stay afloat!
No doubt Myspace is big, But they also have the most problems
Kristen Kuchera
· 1 year ago
Myspace sucks. I know a few people that for over a month they have been trying to get help from Myspace with their accounts and Myspace sent them BLANK messages over and over as if it were a joke maybe. They are as immature as the 15 year olds who use it. Its a website for stalking nothing else.
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But if you'd like me to link to you, please just ask politely - I'll happily oblige. For the origin of this discussion, please see this.
Dude ! its time to call the medics in !
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With the number of ads that you have on the screen?
With bad usability?
With terrible performance?
With ugly interfaces?
With spam for the users?
Just curious.
YouTube will remain the site to visit to try and run video. Don't know why MySpace are trying to muscle them out. From what I see, Youtube embed a video into Myspace's site (and pay for the bandwidth) and Myspace put an ad on the page and get money. Youtube gets a little bit of advertising and some brand loyalty.
Myspace can't sell all their inventory at the moment, so I don't know why they're trying to protect the small amount they're losing by allowing people to upload from youtube.
The sheer amount of interesting/useful/fresh widgets around is fabulous... I only truly get to find out about the brilliant new stuff via Mashable (thanks Pete!!)
I know Myspace and ALL the others check Mashable to get feedback and see what's goin on AND I would be T-H-E L-A-S-T to do Myspaces/News Corps underground user feedback for them BUT how can News Corp spend THAT amount of money buying the leading social network (brand) and NOT understand how the people who use it ACTUALLY operate??!!
Young People/Young Minded LOVE new stuff and exclusive stuff and getting things 1st!!
I put Meebo & Stickam widgets on my profiles without telling my friends and just waited for the reaction from them and others, as well as a Slide picture slide and Youtube video widget AFTER SEEING THEM ON MY FRIENDS PROFILES! not to mention a HotLayout layout... IT AINT NO DIFFERENT TO BUYING NEW FOOTWEAR/CLOTHES/MUSIC/GADGETS you wanna find stuff your friends (and others) DON'T HAVE!!!! cos you know they'll get one AFTER they've seen yours!
Even if the content of your Video/Picture/Music widget is unique WHO wants to have the SAME widgets/gadgets/clothes etc etc as everyone else??!!... It's like buying ALL your stuff from Tesco or the mall??!! cutting the 3rd party eco-system out is SO stupid and Myspace/News Corp WILL pay for it in the end!!
Young people don't give a s*@t about Myspace/News Corp they care about where they're friends are and where the cool, fresh stuff is that relates to THEM!!!
Multi-nationals are, by definition, EXTREMELY GREEDY but to be seen as extremely greedy BULLIES in a social network populated by YOUNG people is EXTREMELY UNWISE.
1) Shouting the fact that News Corp, a massive multi-national giant, owned by a very clever, COLD & RUTHLESS 70?-80? year old Aussie businessman now owns the social "friends" site that was owned by a dude and his pals is NOT seen as cool
2) Having Peter Chernins MASSIVE corperate face beaming out next to the Myspace Logo saying "we'll crush YouTube" will in fact lead to people leaving Myspace for ANY social network that shows signs of being versatile, accomadating of the new and fun.
YouTube can't be crushed it's already a name brand that has been seen in the "right places" ON COOL PROFILES on what HAS BEEN seen as the coolest space on the net!!... I think YouTube HAS TO start developing Myspace style features THEN let's see who will be crushed or "supported"
I'm sure Mr Chernin & Mr Murduch are watching Bebos growth.
Myspace may well have been feeding the guts of the beast BUT the guts of the beast are what will keep Myspace alive in the end!!!!
You seem to have left this comment on 2 posts - ok if I delete the duplicate? (It seems more relevant to this one than the SayNow post).
http://www.ibcnews.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp...
Looking at the harddisk industry, they also did vertical integration with their business, they took over the role of 3rd party component maker's role in order to make better, larger and faster storage.
It's just what it is, the coming of age of the platform itself that's large enough to be a monopoly and attempting to control the "parasites" that's "sucking it's blood". Natrually they will not remember that the 3rd party tools basically help to keep the beast going. Now the beast is strong enough to walk alone, time for the 3rd party companies to grow up with their own niche or diversify to other social network sites as well.
Until you learn more and more and more,
then one day your like fuck myspace and Santa Clause damit’
phil tadros
metroproper.com
Check your facts, myspace wasn't written by some dude and his friends. It was written by a company that specialized in spam and virulent marketing. They came up with the "Tom's just some dude" marketing campaign and it worked quite well. People still believe it.
http://www.valleywag.com/tech/myspace/myspace-t...
Check the comments at the bottom of that ValleyWag article. That "journalist" had a hard time putting together a coherent, useful, or even factually accurate article. He also had a hard time accepting the (perfectly legitimate) criticism, as evidenced by his tantrum in the middle of the comments section. MySpace, while a hotbed for spammers, actually got big by sponsoring concerts.
http://www.startup-review.com/blog/myspace-case...
I think if they did, they'd be screwed. They may get away with blocking more of the Flash widgets, or having some kind of "approved addons" scheme, but I don't see that happening in the near future.
How are you gonna do it News Corp. Yea Myspace is behemoths of social networks online. Sure youtube grew out of your backyard and many more back end channel developments.
How!
The amount of spam I receive from Myspace, I don't even logon any more.
the performance with downtime and other technicalities are every few hours!
how are you gonna crush youtube?
25% of members with profiles are not even real.
I say look out myspace for the next big social network that will enter the game with already pre-screened blocks on all these technicalities.
The main reason for Myspace being so large is because they let everyone in. And thousands of other web 2.0 junkies and other companies uses myspace as a gateway.
Start closing the door, on everyone and maybe you'll stay afloat!
No doubt Myspace is big, But they also have the most problems