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Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

Ace Marauder — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:28:46 -0000

Dude, at least reply to the blog before you pimp your site. Are you aware that you're pimping your new social networking site on a blog that's about a 19 year old boy who killed himself live online?

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

The Wise One — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:10:50 -0000

I saw a clip of the cops coming in when the guy was dead. Personally I think there are a SOLUTION

THE SOLUTION - POLICE JTV CHANNEL and REPORT TO POLICE BUTTON

There's a report to Police button on JTV where a police station somewhere in the country can login and see if anything is wrong and then they have the ability via special permissions to get your home address and all that signup info and then they can contact the local police where you are and help you. It kinda seems like a touchy subject thought, police on the internet. But I think if they had like a channel where people could report anything on the web it would probably be a great way to prevent crime or illegal activities.

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

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Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

Grant — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:14:22 -0000

I remember a story about a year ago that someone faked their death on JTV. So I agree with the part about people being desensitized to this sort of thing. Its like the boy who cried wolf, 99 times its fake, but 1 time its going to be real, but who is going to be able to judge which is which. A few years ago a guy killed himself on Paltalk and people egged him on. Same story, just a different venue and time.

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

pegger — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:29:11 -0000

Abraham Biggs Jr. is really the only one to blame here.

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

Ryan — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:32:14 -0000

I guess i fail to see what the big deal is about "this one".

This same thing happened a few years back, same situation pre-Web 2.0 with IRC and a Webcam.

Lookup, Brandon Vedas.

"I am Hardcore"

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

Katybeth — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:17:25 -0000

I don't know if it could have been prevented...but I sure would not watched and been one of those that did not try. Moderating is a responsibility, and even if it is overdone, I think I would take a second look at anyone threatening suicide--could be drama....and then again maybe not.

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

Martin Edic — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:43:58 -0000

I really don't think it could have been prevented. People who really want to kill themselves usually succeed. Weird society we're creating though...

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

degenerasian — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:24:48 -0000

There is a delay on justin.tv. I've watched sports on there and compared to tv there is a slight 10 second delay (sometimes more).

As FrankO said it's not like the kid took a gun pointed it at the camera and pointed it at himself.
He took some pills and was on a bed. Perhaps the moderators perhaps could have clue in a bit quicker but it wouldn't have changed the end-result. Say we all chipped in and called police. By the time the police get there, he's dead.

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

Pablothehat — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:02:26 -0000

Committing suicide is a statement, particularly so when done in front of an audience.
It says many things on many levels.
It speak of an ego unable to tolerate a situation any further but unable or unwilling to seek an avenue of escape which is a viable option for the Ego to accept.
This might be personal or none-personal situation, a cheating partner, a relationship breakdown, insurmountable debt, a passive-aggressive form of protest against repression, or the active seeking of revenge, regardless of personal cost.
What society's leaders and law enforcement organisation cannot accept is the burden of guilt or responsibility that they have failed to protect either the person who commits suicide or the public from either the message that the dead person wanted to convey or the consequences of their actions in achieving their death.
The natural progression of events will result in those who society regards as its protectors will seek someone to be held accountable.

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

JohnF — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:41:48 -0000

Are you serious?

About the only solution now is that every piece of user-generated content needs to be filtered for intent or liability. Let's just go ahead and kill Web 2.0 and take every writing, video, image under close scrutiny to make sure no one could possibly be hurt by it.

Yeesh.

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

FrankO — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:34:36 -0000

Theres really nothing anyone can do. It's not like the kid offed himself just because there was a live camera....c'mon. No one ever talks about the real truth. You can't blame it on some video chat for craps sake. This is like the Ozzy case. Get real.

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

Martin Edic — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:58:13 -0000

The answer is just like what they do on 'real' live TV- have a delay that is monitored. However to stop this you'd have to have a long delay. If I owned this site I'd shut it down until I figured out how to never have this happen again. It is said that people watching encouraged him which is absolutely repulsive unless they thought it was a gag. Actually that's just as repulsive.
Lot of bad karma out there over this- you know who you are.

Re: Police Ask: Could Justin.TV Have Prevented the Suicide?

Ã˜rv — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:53:04 -0000

broken link:

"commited suicide in front of a live audience"

"looking into it"

Come on, you can do better than this!