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Mashable - The Social Media Guide: 2007/12/29/death-of-riaa/

  • war59312 · 1 year ago
    Any proof? Am I the only one tried of people in the media making "factual statements" without any proof and claiming "freedom of speech"?
  • Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins · 1 year ago
    Are you daft? Did you not read the article? First of all, it is a prediction. Secondly, the 'proof' (or more accurately, evidence) is cited in the article.

    I'm pretty easy to criticize, most of the time. This isn't one of those times.
  • AB · 1 year ago
    To even suggest in passing that the RIAA is going out of business is a bit of a stretch. Right or wrong - RIAA has succeeded in a lot of things for the music industry - everything from device royalties from XM and Sirius, to holding up on streaming radio royalities - to the new battlefront with terrestrial radio (if nothing else, the RIAA will be around just for this debate). RIAA is a trade organization, much the way every industry funds thier trade groups. Cutting back on funding does not mean it is going out of business. They may pursue other tactics - a lighter tone with consumers - but they are busy are ever with the charter they have been handed by their industry - to promote and protect the interests of music companies (their shareholders), within the bounds of our legal system......Much the same way, Pete Cashmore protects the interests of Mashable editors (whose posts were copied and posted without authorization on other publisher sites!)
  • JayFisher · 1 year ago
    The RIAA will not fold, although I do agree with points you are making. The RIAA is processing the law by definition instead of by what is best for the companies/consumers involved. The truth is, the RIAA is doing exactly what they are intended to do, but this is an issue when what they are intended to do is not good for the overall business. The RIAA needs to gain a better understanding of the goals of the companies it represents. They continue to make decisions that are detrimental to the reputation of the the labels under their umbrella, and decisions that I know go against things employees of these labels agree with.

    If I were the RIAA, instead of attempting to find a short term solution for the issue, I would be working on molding the law so it works for everyone. The reality is music is something people want and if there is a demand for something there is a way to monetize it. We sell water in bottles at a premium price for goodness sakes! If you look at the music industry in terms of how it was five years ago, it's a dying industry, but if you look at it as a new;modable industry that we need to start from the ground up applying knowledge for music 1.0 than it is a fresh business where the sky is the limit.

    2008 is going to be a good year for the music industry, It may not show as well on paper, but for the overal "macro" view of the industry as a whole, it will be good. Many new deals are being finalyzed to monetize the lifestyle of music over merely monetizing the actual product. Artists and labels will be able to make money in ways they have never done before. We have the opportunity to mold this industry into something it always should have been, something that is good for consumers and business a like. 2008 will be a good year.
  • JayFisher · 1 year ago
    P.S. My apologies for miss spelled words, I am writing on a portable device.
  • harpless · 1 year ago
    the music industry can learn something from what radiohead did earlier this year!
  • JayFisher · 1 year ago
    Learn what? That when you are a band with as huge of a fanbase and as strong of an iconography as Radiohead you can try any model of sales you want and your hardcore fans will always purchase your music?
  • mtickle · 1 year ago
    I received a $50 gift card for Best Buy for Christmas. I bought three CDs and have about $5 left on the card.

    While Christmas shopping, I popped in the local F.Y.E. (which filled a hole left in the mall by a failed Sam Goody) and saw new releases selling for $16.99.

    Is it any surprise that the Old Music Media is dying?
  • Jarsemy · 1 year ago
    I don't think they'll disappear in the coming year, but I do agree with the overall point of the article.

    I long ago gave up being angered by them and now I'm just entertained. This latest move is especially funny for me because if they succeed in getting a court to set such a precedent, there will be an avalance drop of CD sales and it will be all their fault. Other than baby boomers and older, who carries CDs around with them anymore?

    You buy a CD now to rip it and put it on your portable media player. That's the only reason. Even my "learn spanish" CDs I ripped and put on my mp3 player because it's just easier to use that way.

    They get a precedent that says that's illegal, I won't be buying any CDs ever again. What would be the point? Better off buying downloads online.
  • Laer · 1 year ago
    Well wouldn't this argument have applied to P2P all along then?
  • Laer · 1 year ago
    (This is the comment I referenced):

    "Learn what? That when you are a band with as huge of a fanbase and as strong of an iconography as Radiohead you can try any model of sales you want and your hardcore fans will always purchase your music?"
  • Lunarsight · 1 year ago
    I don't think the RIAA will die, but the tactics they're using to extort money from people will stop.

    They chose a BAD crowd to target - college students. While most of their extortion victims would panic and settle out of court over the alleged piracy, the college students aren't wimps - they'll gladly fight back, and are ripping the logic of the major record label lawyers to shreds in the process.

    As far as Warner Music Group goes, if they die, I won't lose any sleep over it.

    Sadly, I would like to see EMI change, but right now, they're nothing but hot air. I want to see them back up their words with actions.

    Universal Music Group is the label I would like to see die the most. Not only are they jerks, but they're unapologetic ones at that. We should be pushing for a serious UMG boycott in 2008.
  • oyun · 1 year ago
  • proof · 1 year ago
    proof? links? statistics? Your point is pointless unless you show numbers, links, or even other sources.
  • Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins · 1 year ago
    @proof - there are links in the article. Also statistics. You can't prove something is going to happen before it happens.

    I do stand by the prediction, though.