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The left/right label is a false dichotomy that is perpetuated by the Democrats and Republicans. Both groups trample on the Constitution and your rights in different ways.
The source given for "paleoconservative" is this interview with Jones: http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showinterview.....
http://www.prisonplanet.com/neo-con-media-whore...
Due to the following video making your post libelous, can you please at least remove the caption under the photo to resemble something accurate.
Pay particular attention to the guy in the green shirt at 1:27.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKGnN42Cwvs&...
I really like Mashable! and would love to continue my RSS subscription but this is unacceptable.
I am agnostic to this issue but I have to know that what I am reading on Mashable! is accurate. That's why I avoid mainstream media.
Sorry got the name wrong.
He does hate those that would control others through violence, putting people in camps by forcibly rounding them up should be attacked.
Rule by force is wrong and thank all that brings good to exist that Alex brings the fight against tyranny to all that would control others through forceful means.
Just look at his record, it's well documented on his sites.
Alex Jones has numerous ties to *FASCISM*.
AJ uses Big Jim Tucker - connected to Willis Carto, leading light of american far-right.
AJ uses Mike Rivero of WRH. Rivero promotes the far-right: he promotes Curt Maynard, Willis Carto, Joe Fields, holocaust denial, anti-semitism, racism etc......
AJ's ideology is distinctly right-wing - he loathes what he calls "communist trash", and he subscribes to a conspiracy theory which uses vague metaphor to suggest world conspiracy - "globalists, elites, bankers, satanists" etc.......all code-words for "jooooos", of course.
So - AJ is NOT leftwing at all. He's a front for the american far-right.
Mark Hopkins just dropped a turd in the glass.
Verifiably false reporting will not be tolerated on my RSS list.
Not only is he a conspiracy theorist, he's a Constitutionalist, which immediately rules him out as an anarchist or leftist.
fail
"What’s most irritating is that once again, tactics that originate from left-wing bloggers have bled into meatspace and painted a picture that puts all of New Media in a poor light."
What paints New Media in a poor light are people like Michelle Malkin and irresponsible, hyperventilating coverage like this. The way this item is written, Malkin comes across as some legitimate, reasonable voice of the mainstream conservative press. She's a lunatic, on par with jackasses like Alex Jones.
Seriously guys, this feels very amateurish. This must be your first protest. I'm really sorry to see this on Mashable. It's embarrassing.
It's pretty telling that you classify Malkin and Jones in the same category.
Malkin is worse.
Malkin is a typical conservative blogger. I admit that Jones isn't a typical leftist blogger, but he is a variety of leftist blogger.
You can't expect any experience that starts with a crowd chanting a call for your death to be all that pleasant.
The mix of people asking questions in the YouTube debates was reflective of the users of the web... is that suppose to be surprising. Obviously other supporters would be looking on and trying to ask questions.
Wow, where have we gotten?
This puts the whole "freedom of speech" into perspective, doesn't it?
Alex is a diehard constitutionalist (think Ron Paul) and the furthest thing from a Lefty.
Thank you for linking my blog. I've received some extra traffic as a result Unfortunately your reference to my work was either dishonest, grossly misunderstood or very poorly worded. You linked my blog to the bolded portion of the following sentence:
Instead of taking the position of some liberals in the blogosphere, the best move for Democrat aligned bloggers would be to immediately denounce the actions of Alex Jones.
This arrangement suggest that my blog is representive of "liberals in the blogosphere" who do not "immediately denounce the actions of Alex Jones". Anyone who clicks through will note that the title of my entry on Jones reads, "Alex Jones: You're Not Helping". Another moment of reading shows that this title very much reflects the sentiments of the post.
Further, as noted elsewhare in this comments section, you have apparently made the mistake of assuming that Jones is a liberal, but rather his positions align more closely with the extreme right and libertarians who tread in that direction. So perhaps you should rethink your next sentence as well, "Of course the right will denounce Jones & Company, but they would never link to a PrisonPlanet article but to ridicule it."
Yours,
Joe
Maybe you're right. A denouncement, but a backhanded one at that.
(b) According to http://www.fortcollinsnow.com/article/20080825/..., you pretty much have none of your facts right. They say, (1) Jones was there on his own, not leading Recreate 68 rally, (2) Recreate 68 members actually defended Malkin and blasted Jones, both during and after the scuffle.
(c) Despite media and right-wing characterizations, Recreate 68 has been quite clear that they want to recreate the spirit of countercultural spirit, NOT the rioting and violence that occurred, and thus far they've lived up to their claims.
(d) All the other things you got wrong that others have already pointed out. Sheesh.
Awesome reading skills.
He does say 'fark her', but who can blame him?
Rizzn, dude, get your own political blog and stay there. Go to Ron Paul events and amass your own readership. Mashable is not for what you abusing it for.
Polical bloggers are part of the social web, like it or not. Good job, Mark.
Bad job, "Rizzn".
Oh, come'on.
Given how accurate your portrayal of Alex Jones and what transpired in Denver are, I'd say your post is the same sort of engagement that KKK engages in when they do their public marches.
...the LUNATIC fringe.
While Jones is more of a self promoting ass with claims based on hearsay, personal theories, and the want to be the opposite of mainstream, it certainly is not a stretch to say many of his cohorts ARE leftists.
Love, Peace, Justice, ....KILL! Wow!
Malkin simply showing up and taking pictures does NOT deserve death threats, intimidation, and stalking.
How anyone can call Jones an authority on any subject baffles me.
This woman called for torture (of AlQueda), War (on Al Queda), and internment camps for islamic radicals....for some reason I get the feeling you are trying to distort reality to satisfy your own beliefs. Kinda like all the 911-hoax people...way to be...congratulations on being a brainchild.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT6p4MJZBtc
but i also have to point out, like anonymous did before me, that there was no "attack" involved, unless by "attack" you mean "berate, confront, harangue, scold, criticize, or yell at."
yeah, the guy was obnoxious. so is malkin.
and the guy confronted her specifically about things she said about him.
as to the "protesters" yelling "kill michelle malkin," if you notice, it was one guy (the guy in green shirt) who yelled it twice. later on, the same guy yells "alex jones is a corporate tool." so this guy in green is obviously not a friend or associate of alex, he's apparently just a shit-stirrer looking to make trouble.
and, if you'd bother to listen to the crowd, the folks gathered there specifically admonished each other to "don't touch them" and "calm down."
without resorting to name calling, as mr. anonymous did so succinctly when he said conservatives are such pansies, i'd posit that if malkin makes a career out of provoking, she shouldn't be surprised when some one gets provoked.
So it has.
Look at the video produced by infowars, and the one put out by PJtv. Listen to the interviews of Michelle and Alex. infowars.com
The mob itself is fractured, with the majority being leftist movements, anarchist movements, and, of course, the truth movement.
Michelle, yes, is despised by leftists, for obvious reasons; she’s on FOX. Notice that there are anywhere from two to four people shouting behind Alex Jones “Kill Michelle Malkinâ€. Does this mean that they are with him OR they are “truthers†just by virtue of standing behind him and shouting Kill Michelle Malkin? Do your own research, and watch the multiple different versions of the same account.
What would be the most beneficial for all establishment parties, the media, the government, etc, is any violent riot that could occur for any reason, so it would be of little wonder that they might be trying to cause it. Recreate ‘68 indeed…
As far as my personal judgment goes, which is beyond what I just see on television, this seems like a perfect way to discredit other legitimate groups, by using outside controlled sources, such as the leftist movements, to quell any real dissent.
Those nuts, like you call them, are more prevalent than many of you believe. We’re in the woodwork so to speak.
So you might want to work on getting those internment camps set up sooner.
The mob itself is fractured, with the majority being leftist movements, anarchist movements, and, of course, the truth movement.
Michelle, yes, is despised by leftists, for obvious reasons; she’s on FOX. Notice that there are anywhere from two to four people shouting behind Alex Jones “Kill Michelle Malkinâ€. Does this mean that they are with him OR they are “truthers†just by virtue of standing behind him and shouting Kill Michelle Malkin? Do your own research, and watch the multiple different versions of the same account.
What would be the most beneficial for all establishment parties, the media, the government, etc, is any violent riot that could occur for any reason, so it would be of little wonder that they might be trying to cause it. Recreate ‘68 indeed…
As far as my personal judgment goes, which is beyond what I just see on television, this seems like a perfect way to discredit other legitimate groups, by using outside controlled sources, such as the leftist movements, to quell any real dissent.
Those nuts, like you call them, are more prevalent than many of you believe. We’re in the woodwork so to speak.
So you might want to work on getting those internment camps set up sooner.
Alex keep up the fight against the New World Order.
The guy who yelled out "kill Michelle Malkin" is certainly some punk who should be taught a lesson about law and ethics.
~80% of the US and 99% of the rest of the world can understand an issue that's anti-Bush & anti-neocon. So don't be shocked that people of all "political affiliations" (gasp!) might agree with some of the stances. Obviously, the right-wing will be the first to denounce anything like that; they're half comprised of the radical Christian neocon base who still thinks Bush is accomplishing "the mission" while the US circles the drain.
Shouting for something one believes in isn't inherently wrong, but this probably went overboard. I don't know the situation enough to know who around her was against her and who was around her just to take pictures or be a friendly buffer.
Sgt. Crismarvin Banez Encarnacion also received non-judicial punishment but was not expelled.
The results of non-judicial punishment are not made public."
The 17-second video posted on YouTube in March drew sharp condemnation from animal-rights groups.
Malkin is a self promoting media whore who is regarded as extremist poppycock by anyone with half a political brain, yet the inarticulate writer did even mention or contemplate why she is even hanging around the DLC nor anything about her pathetic history as an Agent provocateur.
Mashable, please sack Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins - this is not the kind of crap I come to Mashable to read. I expect, if politics are to be covered by any of your writers, they should be covered by someone who is not a GOP hack and can actually ponder an incident with a respectable level of objectivity when it comes to political issues. Or take him off the political beat at least.
If Mashable starts to play the political partisan game - whether or not you claim to agree with your writers - you will lose readers. Period.
Politics should covered carefully and by someone who actually knows the players and has a bit of a hand on the pulse of it rather than someone who flips out a load of partisan crap like this.
I will go to littlegreenfootballs.com or dailykos.com if I want to read biased, partisan right or left squeals about politics. I don't expect to come here and read this crap.
RGK
Alex never said Kill Michelle Malkin. However, what appears to be an immature frat-boy wearing a balloon jester-hat, and some of his buddies, suddenly approached Mr. Jones and began chanting this, perhaps in sarcasm or in order to falsely associate such provocative statements with Mr. Jones.
The full videos speak for themselves.
The fact that the writer of this article will run with such nonsense to the point of composing an article for public view, speaks volumes regarding his/her character.
I say he's a wacko not because he's a libertarian (although that certainly helps) but because of his conspiracy theories, from the 9/11-was-an-inside-job delusion to his belief that all past and sitting presidents joined a cult at Bohemian Grove.
People in Austin have an amused affection for Alex, which is why he pops up in such places as Richard Linklater's "Waking Life." But most of his political bedfellows, from his associates at hard-right pirate radio to lefty antiwar demonstrators, would be appalled if they actually listened to him.
Regarding my comment at 22:09:11 yesterday and your response; no, I did not in any way “liken†Alex Jones to Michelle Malkin. The only sentence in which I mentioned Malkin reads, "Obviously I’m no fan of Malkin but his hysterical behavior serves no useful purpose, whatsoever." That statement quite plainly expresses that despite my distaste for Ms. Malkin, Mr. Jones’ behavior was unacceptable. Readers who care about the honesty of your work and your ability to objectively judge what you read can decide for themselves whether I've so likened those two people.
Given your now well documented penchant for simplistically labeling people you find disagreeable as "liberals" and your apparent deficiency in understanding the term, it's not surprising that you would so misrepresent me. Even if you lack the self respect and personal integrity to ask honest questions and effort critical thought, I'm sure your readers would appreciate such traits, so perhaps you'll consider stepping it up for them.
Yours,
joe
while malkin may not be as fringe as jones, she is not much different. jones delusions revolve around the establishment, malkin's delusions revolve around muslims. neither of them are based in reality.
do some homework and research before you print this tripe because you are dragging the new media medium just as far down as those 2 by forming associations where there clearly are none.
Second, Jones is a PATRIOT and was doing his duty to let the American public know that Malkin is nothing more than a fascist and is pushing on those who actually lend her an ear a total totaliatarian ideology. Malkin deserved to be confronted after her appalling book "In Defense of Interment." If Malkin truly support interment, I want to see her at the front of the line when it happens. But we all know that she will run and cower like all chicken-hawks do.
And last, most Americans have too much fluoride and mercury streaming through their blood and into their brains to comprehend that 9/11 was set up as a pretext to an endless war and global goverment. So, if you believe the "official version" of 9/11 you are, by any measure, a conspiracy theorist. Like it or not, the "offical version" of the events that allegedly took place that fateful September morning were a massive conspiracy. But, you see, I use logic, and no man in ANY CAVE, can get a trillion dollar military industrial complex to stand down simultaneously. Just doesn't add up folks. Think, it's not illegal YET.
Michelle Malkin blatantly lied on FOX News, implying Alex Jones was part of the 'Recreate 68' protest group, and that he was there to 'levitate the Denver Mint' as a cheap attempt to discredit him, and this despite Mr. Jones' constant statements against the foolishness of that group. Through her FOX interview, she offered no defense of her multiple statements regarding putting American citizens in camps; can we say damage control?. She also said Alex Jones is a 'fringe' talkshow host despite that he has the number one internet radio show with millions of daily, loyal listeners, who's website traffic verifiably dwarfs Malkin's, and has even overtaken Rush Limbaugh's.
Michelle. The only large demographic buying into your fringe garbage are very old people who don't have the internet. Most of these people probably also buy into Televangelists.
Go watch the full videos of the jones/malkin confrontation on youtube. Search 'alex jones michelle malkin', then you will see this news article is a hoax, as those like it. Jones confronted her due to her writing in her book that Americans should be put in internment camps, not 'because she wrote a book'. Also, he never said 'Kill Michelle Malkin', which was actually said by what appeared to be a frat-boy wearing a jester-hat, either out of sarcasm or an attempt to provocateur a situation (such as what we have now, with these hoax articles cropping up everywhere). Disgusting. Also, Alex brought up the fact that the marine corps has admitted that the video of a soldier dropping a live puppy off a cliff was real, while Michelle still (to this day) claims the puppy was a fake, or already dead. According to a June Marine Corps press release: "Lance Cpl. David Motari received non-judicial punishment and was expelled from the service.
Sgt. Crismarvin Banez Encarnacion also received non-judicial punishment but was not expelled.
The results of non-judicial punishment are not made public."
The 17-second video posted on YouTube in March drew sharp condemnation from animal-rights groups.
here are the facts:
1. alex did not threaten to kill anyone
2. alex is not "left" or "right." informed people like alex, meaning folks who tune into real news and know more about what is going on in the world than they do about american idol, transcend the false left-right paradigm. as previous commenters noted, alex is a constitutionalist. mark may be an expert on things like metallica, though it is obvious he is grossly uninformed about the state of the world, and clueless about american history as well.
mark, do your homework before spreading disinformation. you're an irresponsible journalist.
mashable should issue an apology for this shameful, poorly researched article.
Go here and see their pictures and watch the video.
Amazing how leftist koolaid-drinkers and whacked-out conspiracy theorists alike only see and hear what they apparently WANT to hear, i.e., whatever fits into their asinine little worldview.
Jone's call for her death is an attempted incltement to riot, at the very least. Death threats are also considered an act of terrorism in this day and age, under the law. Of course, shutting up the opposition is the feeble replacement for valid, logically-reasoned argumentation and refutation, for the Left and for the Loons (which is why the Obunghole is threatening to sue to block the ad about his connections to Ayers). Jones has a big fan base among the far Left and the ultra-far (fascist) Right. He is something of a fascist himself. He also believes that the world is ruled by shape-shifting reptilian humanoids (from David Icke's theories) who allegedly take on the appearance of human beings and interbreed with us--and they always end up being the people he doesn't like or whom he disagrees with politically.
The man is a lunatic on the fringe. That's the bottom line. And his supporters are just as delusional and irrational.
"Jones, accompanied by little more than a handful of protesters that showed up for the event were documented chanting “Kill Michelle Malkin,†only moments after chanting their previous refrain of “Love! Peace! Justice!â€
One person did this, the guy in the green shirt... and he was NOT with Alex Jones. Watch a bit closer and see what else green shirt says.. He is there to stir things up and is not with the truth movement.
Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins needs to check the FACTS before posting such crap.
alex jones is not left wing either.
the new world order will fail
I say fair play to Mr. Jones for sticking it to someone who actually wrote a book in favour of interning citizens without trial.
Oh, and about the whole LeftRight thing? I'm a leftist who has woken up to the International-Banking-Cartell/NWO . Bring on Direct Democracy I say. Jones s NO leftist! Hes a Libertarian if anything. Which last time I checked is Rightish. We just realize that the official LeftRight thing is BS cos the two big parties are owned by the same people.
Do some research before you post an inaccurate report. This article was either written by a lazy boy or an intentional defamer/ dis-info agent.
But that's hardly a novel insight? Eugene Debs was saying the same thing in American Presidential Elections 100 years ago when he stood as the Socialist candidate.
Debs would see through Jones nonesense, I'm sure.
Alex Jones described "wealth redistribution" as "communist trash."
What sort of "leftist" is against "wealth redistribution"? So please don't try to pretend there's no left/right divide?
A blogger. A journalist. A woman. Petite. Filipino.
Gets bullied by a mob (of mostly angry white males) who threaten her with physical harm and deny her presence in a public place, let alone allow freedom of speech.
If anything, even remotely resembling this event would happen at a McCain event, it would be reported across network news. Not just posted on Mashable (with all due respect to this awesome, and highly-addicting blog).
Where's the outrage? Where's the national organization of women (NOW)? Where's the ACLU? Where's Pelosi?
*crickets*
Instead, as shown above, you've got people defending the hostile party, while going ad hominem on the victim.
Yet another example of the liberal's illogical defenders, and the double standard and bias in journalism. Moveon, indeed.
Forget blogging you have could have a very successful career as a mainstream "journalist". They love people like you who make up all their "facts" to fit their slant.
No Obama, No McSame, No NWO!
I have no respect for stupid people that yell and scream over other people and won't let anyone else get a word in edgewise. That ridiculous type of behavior is rude and he lacks all credibility for not allowing his prey (for lack of a better word)
to give her side.
Yes wealth redistibution, but connstitution and Bill of Rights always cme first. The mainstream political parties and mainstream media seem to forget this these days. Hence my appel to direct democrcy.
NO, you work for what you get, you don't work, you STARVE buddy, uless you are disabled.
KEEP AWAY FROM MY MONEY, WORK AND MAKE YOUR OWN.
I don't want YOUR money. I want people who are starving to death to have food - children who are working at embroidery in India to have an education. That sort of thing - get it?
You don't have to agree with "wealth redistribution" - I only asked what sort of leftist would disagree with it.
Like Alex Jones, you perhaps think redistribution is "communist trash". Fine - you're entitled to believe so.
The point is - Alex Jones' belief system is not redistributive - his views are NOT leftwing. OK?
That having been said, the post doesn't make sense. How can you possibly group "Democrat aligned[sic] bloggers" in with people who are trying to disrupt the DNC? Does that even make sense?
I think that most people characterize Alex Jones as "a crazy" rather than "a leftist." The video you are using as source material even calls him a "fringe radio host/thug."
Why did you link to someone's Livejournal account as an example of "liberals in the blogosphere?" Could you use a less authoritative source? What's next? A hard-hitting exposé of Al Qaeda's presence on deviantART?
I suggest you either give Mark Hopkins a kick up the ass for misrepresenting your brand or you will lose a lot more people who are becoming aware of the infiltration of yellow journalism in the blog world.
Alex Jones never said any such thing and he is not affiliated with those that were making asses of themselves. Anyone with half a brain could tell that these were provocateurs amidst peaceful protesters.
Awaiting your apology Mashable!
haha - he's skilled at making an ass of himself - he doesn't need others.
The point is surely that Alex Jones made an ass of himself - and acted reprehensibly like a fascist bootboy - REGARDLESS of whom the other people are.
Troofers and AJs minions are wheeling to make people in the crowd the topic - but AJs reprehensible behaviour is entirely separate to anyone else's in the crowd - AJ deserves condemnation himself - REGARDLESS of whoever else was there doing whatever for whomever. None of which is known.
What IS known is Alex Jones behaved despicably.
"simo said..."
NOT steve said......
sorry
;)
If Alex Jones made an ass of himself in your opinion that is fine but there is a chasm of difference between making an ass of yourself and calling for someone's murder.
And yes it is known who made these threats toward Michelle. Watch the guy in the green shirt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-DoxqvqjxM&...
Ah gotta love youtube and handycams. Irrefutable!
It brings reason back into the argument.
That's largely irrelevant to me. AJs reprehensible behaviour stands on its own, and was NOT DEPENDENT on any association with people apparently shouting "kill Malkin" - Alex did what HE did.
The caption on the photo for this article is perhaps wrong. But there is no debate about Alex's dehumanising suggestion that Malkin is "a monster", is there?
The whole scene shows Alex frienzedly leading a witch-hunt - for "a monster"!? It's a lynchmob - or a pack of nazi brownshirts. It's disgusting.
As for the unknown people shouting KILL MALKIN - *no-one* yet knows who they are....
Winston said.. "That's largely irrelevant to me."
That's the whole crux of the article. The article is not about AJ's "reprehensible behavior" but his death threats. Would the media really bother reporting on AJ chastizing someone? Like you yourself said, he does this all the time. That's not news.
Thug that he is.
That other people were shouting "kill" michelle malkin does not justify jones brownshirting of malkin.
You can insist all you want about "what the article is really about" - doesn't mean a thing.
When you have blatant evidence of a lie caught on camera, you respond with the popular sentiment of this country and then resort to an argument everyone can agree on.
You know I actually heard a guy say "even it if it was true, I wouldn't believe it" in response to the polar ice cap increasing by 30% this year.This is what we're dealing with.
Winston said.. "The caption on the photo for this article is perhaps wrong". No my friend, it's libelous.
A discerning mind you'll never sway.
No my friend
Do some investigation Mark Hopkins. Do your job and analyze what mainstream media tells us rather than just repeat it.
Shameful post in what is otherwise a pretty good blog.
He is unable to win in the arena of ideas and has to resort to this childish and ugly behavior.
I try to always get both sides of the story, and have listened to his show before. It is just crazy conspiracy stories with him in the spotlight as the man with all the answers.
The party that claims to be tolerant, for liberty and free speech, and open minded could not be further from the truth.
Or is just easier to take the intellectually lazy way out by making ad hominem attacks? (The favorite tool of those who have abandoned reason.)
It's impossible to prove a lie. That's why you see AJ demonized in the media. He always wins the argument and then gets cut off when the truth starts to rear it's ugly head.
You may not like his methods but his argumentative logic is spot on.
http://rattube.com/blog1/2008/08/26/alex-school...
Alex: “The big banks are for open borders. They wanna flood all our countries……â€
RAIM: “No they’re not. They’re for closed borders.â€
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Alex debunked in an instant! Watch the whole thing - the RAIM/ReCreate68 dude is MUCH smarter than Alex, and is WAY ahead of him.
And NOTE how this supposed "anarchist provocateur" points out his opposition to Alex's WHITE POPULISM??? Now WHERE could THAT have come from? Wake up dudes? Or stop denying it?
Hang on. I may have an answer for you Winston.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT6p4MJZBtc
Funny how the target of White Populists is one herself.
err, yeah, right........dimwit.
I am gonna take that ad hominem attack as an admission of defeat. Ad hominem attacks are what you resort to when you can't win with logic. Just watch FOX news for plenty of examples.
The way real argument works is you present your point of view and then I present mine.
I have shown you where Malkin was racist. Now you tell me where Alex Jones was being racist? A guy with a bullhorn yelling from 3 feet doesn't make it so.
Try not to get emotional. It makes you look wrong Winston.
If you've read this crap blogger, just print his vomit and flush it down the shitter. Too bad you can't flush the writer down with it. That's where he belongs.
So what about it Rizzn. How about posting what really happened instead of the nonsense that's on this page. Try telling the truth.
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How do YOU know? None of us know that, one way or the other.
Angus said: "He [AJ] was confronting her [Malkin] on her belief that some people in America should be sent to internment camps.
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Is that what you call "confronting"? I call it fascist bootboy tactics........
And like I say - Alex does more than just ACT like a fascist - he associates with them, he promotes them, and he works with them.........
And it's funny seeing people demand accuracy about Alex Jones, when it's something Alex certainly doesn't care about.
Just because you don't like what Jones has to say doesn't mean he's a kook.
Funny you know they were part of ReCreate68 just by the look of them. Hilarious.
Were these people shouting "kill malkin" before Jones started did his impression of a nazi?
No? Thought not.
So what of Jones' part, eh? How do you think Malkin felt? Would you like it? Would Jones?
Endorsing Jones' behaviour surely means you are up for tolerating such disgusting behaviour yourself. You also suggest that the rest of us must put up with it too.
And you can't recognise it as BROWNSHIRTING!!???
Noticed you are trying to defend every neo-con viewpoint on this blog post. Even the ones that others have started. Are they incapable of defending themselves?
How much does a neo-con professional troll get paid these days?
I know it's difficult to comprehend someone defending somebody even if they don't agree with them - but you know, sometimes it really does happen.
That you're too purposefully blinded by your own beliefs to see how offensive AJ is - is your own problem.
How much does that take your tally to today?
Do you get paid per post or word? I hope they don't include quality of content because you may starve this week.
Look at who you are defending Winston.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT6p4MJZBtc
I think she can take a little yelling.
I happen to be an anarchist. Alex Jones is no anarchist. There are plenty of leftists who are into Alex Jones and his conspiracy theories, but anarchists generally have no use for the magical thinking that underlies conspiracy theories. We have better bullshit detectors than the radical liberal crowd that is fascinated with Jones and his ilk.
I'm surprised to say that, but I have more respect for Jones than for Malkin.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/provocateurs-call-f...
If you go to the jones website, you will see his side of the story. http://www.prisonplanet.com/malkin-stooge-caugh...
Given Alex Jone's values on 'truth' and his search for it. I'd believe him over any far right chick who works for fox news.
1) Alex Jones is a conservative/libertarian in the mold of Ron Paul. He is NOT a leftist in any way. If you would have ever listened to five minutes of his show you would realize that.
2) Malkin wasnt attacked and neither was anyone else. Jones went to that protest to cover the protesters (Recreate 68) who he feels are there to provoke violence. He isnt "their leader" and he doesnt condone what they do....their members were pushing Alex and the cameraman.
3) Alex was correct that Malkin called him a liar and that when SHE was proven wrong, she never retracted or apologized.
Dont Quit Your Day Job, sir.
ROFL - so Jones went there and tried making a violent provocation all of his own!
How ridiculous!
How can you justify Jones' provocation by claiming he was "investigating ReCreate68's provocation"?
How ridiculous.
And how do YOU know that's WHY jones was there? You are ASSUMING you know.
More reasonably we can conclude Jones was there to CAUSE a provocation - to promote himself - to attack "the left" in the guise of ReCreate68.
He is also a self described paleo-conservative, which wikipedia describes as "an anti-communist and anti-authoritarian[1] right-wing movement in the United States that stresses tradition, civil society and classical federalism, along with familial, religious, regional, national and Western identity."
Hardly even close to a left winger, 2 minutes of research on the guy would make that pretty obvious. I doubt there is a single credible blog on the left or right that would link to any of his sites regularly.
The actions of Jones aren't going to put a black on new media, he is a joke, this is what he does every day. What could put a black on new media are "articles" like this one that are so poorly researched and posted as a news item, hurting the credibility of not only this site and this author but new media in general.
2. Alex Jones is not a liberal and his actions have nothing to do with the left blogosphere.
3. "What’s most irritating is that once again, tactics that originate from left-wing bloggers have bled into meatspace..."
Michelle Malkin is famous for posting the complete contact information of people she dislikes on her website so that her readers can send them death threats and physically harrass them.
4. Why is it the responsibility of liberal bloggers to denounce someone who is not part of the liberal blog community at all?
5. And why do conservatives not denounce Michelle Malkin, who is a mainstay of conservative blogs?
6. "Is that what you call "confronting"? I call it fascist bootboy tactics........"
Michelle Malkin defended the internment of American citizens during WW2.
This is what actually happened: Malkin went to a rally to create press for herself and some people yelled at her.
Wow.
Are you saying you are fine yourself about putting up with what Malkin had to, whilst she WORKED?
You INVITE people to treat you like that?
You think it is acceptable that everyone must put up with such behaviour - that it is all "just fine"?
This kind of post is why I stopped reading your blog and never added you to my google reader, even though I used to read quite often. More than once you've inserted partisan politics masquerading as web 2.0 news, and you come across as petty and just as irrelevant as the rest of the fact distorting partisan blogs out there.
All these little tricks you think you're pulling to twist a fact here, or play an association game there (B. Hussein Obama? I still remember that one..), ... all of it just shows you think readers, regardless of political leaning, are stupider than they are. Bad idea.
I hope she does DIE. She is a worthless human being. But don't try to put words in Alex's mouth.
Intellectual prostitution for a paycheck.
If you watch the video you will see that Alex Jones NEVER said that.
Please try to be more accurate in your "reporting" from now on.
Thank you.
Mate, you need to correct this asap! What has been posted is not correct at all. This kind of story belongs on your own personal blog.. I thought this was a professional site about social media technologies? Anyway. If you print up wrong information, people will take you pull you up on it.
Cheers
"their jack-booted propagandist Fox News idols like Michelle Malkin."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/inside-edition-smea...
OMFG - Malkin is now the "jack-booted" one?
If you people can't see how manipulative and deceptive prisonplanet are after that - then there is no hope for you.......
Shill? haha. Just because you haven't the political nonce to see through Jones' rubbish, you think those that can must be sponsored spooks. LMFAO
I have decided that I no longer trust any news that comes from this blog. I normally do not make 'I'm leaving' comments on blogs, generally if a blog appears to be in a downward spiral I'll simply stop visiting. In this case I make this comment solely in the hope that the criticism may be taken into account and mashable could attempt to reclaim some semblance of reliability.
Baaaah baaaah
sheep lover
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indeed - he has it stuck right up his arse.
"challenge the status quo"
Alex considers redistribution of wealth to be "communist trash".
So how in hell does Alex challenge the status quo?
(Why can't Jones' minions THINK in anything but simple phrases?)
I'd love to know how people think AJ challenges the status quo. Buy a DVD - change the status quo? ROFL
What Malkin believes, writes, broadcasts or publishes is irrelevant to whether she is ALLOWED to do so.
What happened to sentiment such as "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it"?
Troofers' commitment to such values has been exposed as hollow. That's the point - not whether one agrees with Malkin's views or not.
Sheesh - go to AJs sites - go to any troofers sites - one theme you can't escape is a professed support for freedom of speech.
Well - that's been exposed as absolutely worthless cant, hasn't it?
Unfortunately for you, your unwillingness to actually research and back up your work has made you look at best naive, and at worst a liar.
If you’d like to know what really happened, I’d suggest you take a look at the following video. It’ll take you less than 10 minutes, and will teach you a valuable lesson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrwEIFx_gEU&...