Its a catch 22 situation, if they don't take such measures, we might never catchup with organised crime. That said, I do agree its a huge invasion of privacy.
tony
· 1 year ago
Scary. What can we do to stop this happening?
Anderson
· 1 year ago
The fact that then need a law for it just shows how backwards UK's surveillance infrastructure is.
Everything in that bill is already in place in every developed country, either via local systems or by collaborating with other agencies. UK's official are just afraid that because of the political changes in the US, they -might- lose access to these resources, because UK were too lazy to develop their own tools.
And to develop their own tools, they need so much resources, that they actually need a legislation for this kind of infrastructure, instead of building it gradually without alarming the shit out of the public.
Dave
· 1 year ago
Tom, organized crime and many other criminal elements are most often a number of steps ahead, knowing how to disguise and encrypt their communications (including which the end points are and what is being said/written).
Most other criminals (the real ones, not people who express an opinion against a leading party here in the UK) could be caught with other, less privacy infringing methods. The 'terrorist acts' of the world have already gone too far..
Anrkist
· 1 year ago
Well, I'm not surprised to see something like this from the UK. First they began with the camera system...
I'm not some nut who thinks they are doing this for anything other than the safety of their own people but they are setting themselves up for some really scary possibilities. 50 years from now, the technology could be so advanced that it's potential for abuse by someone with less than ideal aspirations could really pose a threat.
I hope the short term safety is worth it.
David Gerard
· 1 year ago
I have the answer: They can use DRM on it! It's worked perfectly to protect music and software, there's no way it won't work for every detail of your personal life. What could possibly go wrong?
I dont have a problem with it ... as I'm not engaged in terrorism or crime in any way (or have anything else to hide). If it helps the police/MI5 deal with people who are, then I'm all for it.
Jerry
· 1 year ago
This is another example of government getting involved int he private sector. Why not tell me what to eat too...
Melissa
· 1 year ago
This freaks me out. It makes you think twice about what you write, text or say. I understand that it can be helpful in a criminal situation, however, there are a lot of thinks I talk about or text message that are personal, and I wouldn't want anyone else but the receipient to see or hear.
AlexK
· 1 year ago
These f***ing dictators always have a good excuse to frame us. We should stop this before we all have microchips implanted in our body.
Julian
· 1 year ago
This has already happened in the United States, as to the true extent we don't know. It is slowly happening all over the world. In the immortal words of Benjamin Franklin ""Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
eddie
· 1 year ago
what seems strange is that for years now they have already been doing this! just do a quick search on google (or any other major search engine) for "Echelon" and then read how, Echelon is the name given to an international electronic eavesdropping network run by the intelligence organisations of the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Two of the chief protagonists - Britain and America - officially deny its existence. But the BBC has confirmation from the Australian Government that such a network really does exist and politicians on both sides of the Atlantic are calling for an inquiry.
The power of the network, codenamed Echelon, is astounding. Every international telephone call, fax, e-mail, or radio transmission can be listened to by powerful computers capable of voice recognition. They home in on a long list of key words, or patterns of messages. They are looking for evidence of international crime, like terrorism. So it would seem this new communications is just taking things in the uk one step closer to '1984'
Mara
· 1 year ago
Oh...I don't like this one bit.
tony
· 1 year ago
Just the British government's usual agitprop b/s - scare the life out of the population by suggesting we are under increasing threat from terrorism, murderers and sexual miscreants to justify yet more surveillance.
anarchyintheuk
· 1 year ago
Stalin and the East German Stazi, could have learnt much from so called free democratic countries.
The UK has the most watched society in the world by CCTV, yet the crime rate remains high. Politicians just can't get over their power trip.
Laws introduced are misused. The most recent being - using anti-terrorist legislation to deal with the Icelandic Bank failures and local councils using anti-terrorist laws to investigate individuals.
British politicians are amongst the worlds most corrupt, deciding their own pay levels, operating as self employed tax payers, refuse to listen to the population and protecting their own gravy train.
Unfortunately, those who fought and died in the first and second world wars for freedom and democracy did so in vain.
BlueBoden
· 1 year ago
It may very well be a step closer to what was predicted in the bible. The crime of making such a system, is much greater then the crime comitted by those it tries to catch.
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· 5 months ago
The warm feeling I get when someone is thoughtful enough to say thank you for having been helped far outweighs the empty one I get when there's no feedback at all.
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Everything in that bill is already in place in every developed country, either via local systems or by collaborating with other agencies. UK's official are just afraid that because of the political changes in the US, they -might- lose access to these resources, because UK were too lazy to develop their own tools.
And to develop their own tools, they need so much resources, that they actually need a legislation for this kind of infrastructure, instead of building it gradually without alarming the shit out of the public.
Most other criminals (the real ones, not people who express an opinion against a leading party here in the UK) could be caught with other, less privacy infringing methods. The 'terrorist acts' of the world have already gone too far..
I'm not some nut who thinks they are doing this for anything other than the safety of their own people but they are setting themselves up for some really scary possibilities. 50 years from now, the technology could be so advanced that it's potential for abuse by someone with less than ideal aspirations could really pose a threat.
I hope the short term safety is worth it.
Blog rant: http://notnews.today.com/?p=152
http://www.statewatch.org/eu-data-retention.htm
The power of the network, codenamed Echelon, is astounding.
Every international telephone call, fax, e-mail, or radio transmission can be listened to by powerful computers capable of voice recognition. They home in on a long list of key words, or patterns of messages. They are looking for evidence of international crime, like terrorism.
So it would seem this new communications is just taking things in the uk one step closer to '1984'
The UK has the most watched society in the world by CCTV, yet the crime rate remains high. Politicians just can't get over their power trip.
Laws introduced are misused. The most recent being - using anti-terrorist legislation to deal with the Icelandic Bank failures and local councils using anti-terrorist laws to investigate individuals.
British politicians are amongst the worlds most corrupt, deciding their own pay levels, operating as self employed tax payers, refuse to listen to the population and protecting their own gravy train.
Unfortunately, those who fought and died in the first and second world wars for freedom and democracy did so in vain.
Tom
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