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Re: Six Apart Provides Social Networking Capabilities with Movable Type Pro

Anil Dash — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:52:36 -0000

rrcatto, if the only people who are able to publish on the web, or able to connect with communities online, are those who "Read the CODE", then those of us who truly love the web will have failed. Our mission at Six Apart is based on the idea that, no, you *don't* need to be a programmer if you have something worthwhile to say, and that any time more people are sharing their ideas online, we're winning.

And that's the truth. When we started, a lot of people still thought blogging itself was a fad, or that we bloggers would never have the impact that we've had on media, on politics, on culture, on community, on society itself. But now that impact is undeniable. Frankly, we're thrilled any time anybody starts publishing on the web, regardless of which platform. If you prefer WordPress, great! Our Media team can help you with advertising on your site. Our Blogs.com team at Six Apart can help promote your site. Six Apart makes Blog It to make it easier to update that site from within Facebook or on your iPhone, and we make TypePad AntiSpam so you don't have to pay for Akismet just to get great comment spam protection.

In short, when people are expressing themselves online, and using the power of blogs to power communities, then we're winning. I don't know what war you're fighting, or who you want to go to battle with, but if you think there's victory in battling those that want to help more voices get online, then I'm not sure why you'd participate in a community like the one here at Mashable.

Re: Six Apart Provides Social Networking Capabilities with Movable Type Pro

Jeremy — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:19:47 -0000

How is it not open source? MT is released under the GPL same as Wordpress. If you want paid support, 6A developed addons you pay a small amount. What isn't clear?

Re: Six Apart Provides Social Networking Capabilities with Movable Type Pro

Zack Beatty — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:54:56 -0000

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Looks like a desesperate move to catch up with Wordpress and Buddypress, without going the opensource way
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No, this is actually a move into the space occupied by Ning, Flux, Wetpaint, and KickApps. This is the Long Tail of social networking.

If you're a content publisher/owner and you're not paying attention to White Label Social Networking, you're simply not paying attention. Google's announcement of "Friend Connect" finally ratified the importance of the concept, but it was pioneered in various forms by those companies I mention above.

"Social networking is a feature, not a destination."

Re: Six Apart Provides Social Networking Capabilities with Movable Type Pro

Fabrice Epelboin — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:54:28 -0000

... not to mention another point you got right: you got support, and a pretty good one (yes, I've been working with MT) and that's a great plus to your offer, probably the reason it sells so well. If I was a media, going the MT way is going the safe way, and therefore probably the best or - at least - the only possible way.

But still, I strongly disagree with you saying MT is opensource, it's not that clear, it's based on an opensource product (so is OSX, BTW), and that's a totaly different story.

Re: Six Apart Provides Social Networking Capabilities with Movable Type Pro

Fabrice Epelboin — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:44:20 -0000

Anil, I agree with you on one point, this is definitely where blogging, at least blogging platform is going.
Won't comment about MT being open source, but this is far from reality, it's an hybrid model, and I like Wordpress' model better (personal opinion).
As to Buddypress being vaporware... Well, not exactly - you can download it if you want - let's say beta... ok... alpha... you go a point... er... half of it, actualy ;)

Re: Six Apart Provides Social Networking Capabilities with Movable Type Pro

Anil Dash — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:57:53 -0000

Fabrice, that's an absurd comparison. First, Movable Type Pro *exists*. At least until next year or so, BuddyPress is vaporware. Second, MT Pro's features are based on the Movable Type Community Solution, which has been around for more than a year and powers sites all over the web like Talking Points Memo and AMC's Mad Men blog and tons more. So this isn't a theoretical set of plugins that someone can cobble together to try to graft on social features, this is a cohesive platform that you can get professional support and services for, and use to build a large scale sites.

Plus, you get all the benefits of MT 4.2: It's completely open source, it comes with free TypePad AntiSpam which is also open source, and it's up to 100x faster for common tasks. All that while being far, far more secure than WordPress.

In short, this is where blogging is going next, combining open social features with really robust publshing and content management. We're glad that others agree that's the future, and we're proud that Movable Type is the first to get there.

Re: Six Apart Provides Social Networking Capabilities with Movable Type Pro

DL Byron — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:55:02 -0000

Your post makes me yearn for the days of old media and reporters with editors checking facts and sources and even just what they're saying. Your posts doesn't explain at all what the differences are between the apps. This sentence is incoherent and I'm guessing you just chopped up a press release.

"the next step for the blogging software creator is a new self-service option for site publishers to add social networking capabilities to their online publications"

Re: Six Apart Provides Social Networking Capabilities with Movable Type Pro

Smoothie — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:18:15 -0000

Movable Type are involved? Sheesh.

Re: Six Apart Provides Social Networking Capabilities with Movable Type Pro

Fabrice Epelboin — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:55:46 -0000

Looks like a desesperate move to catch up with Wordpress and Buddypress, without going the opensource way :(
Still pretty appealing for media who choosed to go the MT way :)