Wow...are we really running out of names? Why would I even try to pronounce this site?
Kerry
· 1 year ago
So if I'm understanding this correctly, the site puts content from all over, in one easy to access place. Then allows people to comment on the content, in that one location. From your post, I'm still trying to make sure I understand what naysayers' fears are. So the problem is that any comments on the content, will not be attached TO the content, in its original and author intended location? Is that the fear and the reason why people don't like it?
Then you say a "...grand disconnect would result. And then chaos ensues." Is that because the entire conversation is not being held at the same place as the content, with the author included? I apologize if I sound like an idiot, but I just want to make sure I understand what the potential uproar is about.
If all that is the issue, to me I still don't see the main problem. I don't see Shyftr "changing" the internet the way say, Google or MySpace have changed the internet. If people have their conversations about blogs and feeds in another "brand new and much more convenient than anywhere else" place, is it REALLY going to suck in the 'middle internet' users (equate that to middle ground users with enough technical knowledge to use a web browser, albiet not safely), the vast majority of whom may or may not know what a feed is?
By the time any site attempting to "change" the way we view and comment on content, becomes developed enough to break outside of the early-adopter-try-anything-new-as-long-as-its-misspelled-in-a-cool-way group, a major player ::coughMicrosoftcough:: will have bought them and then those additional "miracle" features you suggested may come to exist as well.
In my opinion, any fear that this is going to be more than just another site that gets its share of a small percentage of overall users - but enough to keep pushing forward - before its copied, improved and/or run into the ground, is wasted energy.
Joseph Ratliff
· 1 year ago
I honestly don't like this concept. It seems like a social "feed reader". Google already has one of those.
And the sharing part...
That can be done in other ways.
p-air
· 1 year ago
Actually, Shiftr doesn't sound all that unique. If we consider a service like Newsvine which lets a person select an article or story (or blog post) and enable conversation to occur around this that in effect accomplishes the same thing.
The other analog I'd use is cocomment, where I can keep up w/my conversations on various web sites. While Shiftr seems to play this fm an RSS newsreader, the final outcome is the same, but unlike cocomment that enables the conversation to remain on the original author's web site or blog, it does dissipate the conversation and works against creating critical mass of commenters.
I have to agree that this model, taken to its extreme really does water down the conversation since not everyone will comment everywhere and everyone will not benefit from everyone else's thoughts on a subject started by an author/blogger. Some will do on the blog, others on Shiftr. Given that not everyone will be on Shiftr, Shiftr is taking away valuable shared knowledge fm the blogger's community.
If there was a way for them push the comments back on to the blog, now that would resolve these issues and be cool.
Bob
· 1 year ago
Solution to all of this: Delete your blogs. Any thoughts, information you want to communicate, use Facebook notes. Bang, everything including comments are in one place and hey, it's social. Plus, there's no longer any need to throw up that stupid "Share on Facebook" button.
Coleman Foley
· 1 year ago
it was a balanced, unbiased article
Gsp
· 1 year ago
Your link to Upshot Interactive triggers a Trojan warning by my firewall. It's not vague or uncertain about it (like this "may" be riskware) - it flat out says "This is a Trojan. Terminate download."
What's going on?!
miracLes
· 5 months ago
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Then you say a "...grand disconnect would result. And then chaos ensues." Is that because the entire conversation is not being held at the same place as the content, with the author included? I apologize if I sound like an idiot, but I just want to make sure I understand what the potential uproar is about.
If all that is the issue, to me I still don't see the main problem. I don't see Shyftr "changing" the internet the way say, Google or MySpace have changed the internet. If people have their conversations about blogs and feeds in another "brand new and much more convenient than anywhere else" place, is it REALLY going to suck in the 'middle internet' users (equate that to middle ground users with enough technical knowledge to use a web browser, albiet not safely), the vast majority of whom may or may not know what a feed is?
By the time any site attempting to "change" the way we view and comment on content, becomes developed enough to break outside of the early-adopter-try-anything-new-as-long-as-its-misspelled-in-a-cool-way group, a major player ::coughMicrosoftcough:: will have bought them and then those additional "miracle" features you suggested may come to exist as well.
In my opinion, any fear that this is going to be more than just another site that gets its share of a small percentage of overall users - but enough to keep pushing forward - before its copied, improved and/or run into the ground, is wasted energy.
And the sharing part...
That can be done in other ways.
The other analog I'd use is cocomment, where I can keep up w/my conversations on various web sites. While Shiftr seems to play this fm an RSS newsreader, the final outcome is the same, but unlike cocomment that enables the conversation to remain on the original author's web site or blog, it does dissipate the conversation and works against creating critical mass of commenters.
I have to agree that this model, taken to its extreme really does water down the conversation since not everyone will comment everywhere and everyone will not benefit from everyone else's thoughts on a subject started by an author/blogger. Some will do on the blog, others on Shiftr. Given that not everyone will be on Shiftr, Shiftr is taking away valuable shared knowledge fm the blogger's community.
If there was a way for them push the comments back on to the blog, now that would resolve these issues and be cool.
What's going on?!
Good post thanks for sharing.
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