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If Hansen sues, they get to keep their trademark whether they win or lose. If they don't, they could lose a very valuable trademark. It's a no brainer.
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B4nrfa1TJaE...
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Don't think I'm hating on breweries. I love a local beer as much as the next guy. but laws are laws. Plus, a boycott on Monster just isn't realistic. You think most people in the nation care about the small brewery? You're wrong. Monster is a damn good enerhy drink and they make way too much money off of other products for a boycott the size of a small college to heart them.
Second, Hansen's federal trademark covers "Monster" and "Monster Energy," not "Vermonster." Meanwhile, Rock Art has a state trademark dating from 2006 for "Vermonster." As Hansen's trademark is limited to Monster and Monster Energy, Rock Art's existing state trademark takes precedent.
Finally, Ben & Jerry's is owned by Unilever, a multi-national corporation with $40.5 in revenue last year alone. That is far more important in Hansen's decision not to take on Ben & Jerry's than their respective industries.
If the reason is to prevent confusion, then why has Hansen not gone after Brooklyn brewing co. for their Monster Ale, or Terrapin for Big Hoppy Monster? Going after one to protect their trademark while leaving the others alone is hypocritical at best.
Hansen attempted to acquire a trademark for Vermonster and found the name already trademarked on the state level, with a federal request pending. They were looking to expand into the alcoholic beverage market, and found a company already there. Hansen would lose a straight-up legal fight, and hopes to outspend Rock Art in the long run.
Support Rock Art in their fight against Hansen.
Let's watch the outcome, and then see who is right.
Even if the trademark is for 'Monster' or 'Monster Energy', it still gives them the right to go after someone like 'Vermonster' because it is similar and under the same catergory of 'light beverage'. Everyone is saying its different because it's an alcoholic drink not an energy drink, but beer is not in the 'alcoholic beverage' category. That category is for wine, not beer. SO, under those terms Vermonster is in a great deal of hurt.
Everyone seems to look past the facts and is focusing on Corporate America screwing over the little guy. Monster has in fact gone for other fish that are larger than they are proving there is no discrimination towards the small brewery. Hansen is currently taking on 99 trial appeal files of one sort or another. They even took on Coke, which has $7.4bil revenue in a quarter. The figures don’t matter. Hansen is looking in the long run, they see an issue with ‘Vermonster’ and are taking care of that issue now, before it gets too late.
The craft beer community is active in the social media space and will do whatever it takes to crush Monster.
hahahahaha! Thanks for the laugh!
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid...
Wow, you're an asshole.
http://www.trygve.com/blog_2009_10.html
It's amazing how stupid people like you are.
Monster Energy does not own a trademark in the beer category. If it feared people associating any of the 30-40 beers out there with the word, "Monster" in it, then they would've trademarked the drink in the beer category a long-ass time ago. Instead they only trademarked it in the fruit and nutritional drinks category. They are going after Rock Art because they want to "some day" enter the alcoholic bev market.
Regardless, trademark law is broken if someone has to endure PR scrutiny for protecting its mark (meaning the public at large doesn't understand the system) but this is a case where Monster has no rights in the beer category and shouldn't be issuing C&D letters to those who do.
If categories don't matter, then Hansen could sue hundreds of companies with the name "Monster" in their names or products because of possible confusion that they are endorsing those products. Everyone would be suing each other and no one would make anything anymore.
See the timeline of this debacle here: http://beernews.org/2009/10/timeline-rock-art-v...
There is no category for beer. Both energy drinks and beer are in the same category - "light beverages" (Category 32, if I recall correctly).
Next...
Case closed.
What community college do you go to?
Hansen chose a common English word and thus their patent infringement claim is a nuisance case. That's why this is an abuse, since they are asserting their rights to control on all associations with the word, EVEN IN ADVANCE of their possible entry into alcoholic beverages. They are bullies, and it's a shame that you can buy legal action of this sort. It should be thrown out of court, and the lawyers fined for bring up a frivolous suit.
-Anderson's Business Law
It may be common, but it has a secondary meaning. Thus, able to be trademarked.
This is semantics then. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&stat...
However Hansen filed their trademarks, it is clear that it was not as an alcoholic beverage. It was clear that Rock Art filed theirs as an alcoholic beverage: "G & S: beer." That or the TESS is omitting pertinent info or misleading in how it is presenting it.
Hansen's trademark is for an energy drink, which is Category 32, light beverages.
Rock Art's trademark is for a beer, which is Category 32, light beverages.
People like you are so stupid.
Stephen, since you seem to know a great deal about Hansen, have they sued Red Robin Restaurants for their MONSTER SHAKE? obviously the same target market who we all can agree would easily be confused, thinking they are getting a MONSTER ENERGY shake. This would certainly seem to be a priority for product name infringement.
Giving proper referencing to the following source: http://www.iprights.com/document.aspx?fn=load&m....
While Hansen won rregarding reputation in Australia (Hansen Beverage Company v Bickford’s (Australia) Pty Ltd, [2008] FCAFC 181), in part, the court found : "Courts can look at the impact of indirect marketing techniques, including the internet, viral
campaigns and websites".
This works on both sides of the fence. There is an overwhelming majority of comments on blogs, etc, indicating there is no chance of confusing the two products. Further, elsewhere, bloggers seemingly attached Hansen refer to the Trade Practices Act.
However, also see:
"http://www.mondaq.com/australia/article.asp?articleid=71306"... the Trade Practices Act is concerned with consumer protection. Consequently, the Act makes no reference to reputation, although case law establishes that the likelihood of consumers being misled or deceived relates to a "significant" or "substantial" proportion of persons within the relevant market. Accordingly, the sufficiency of the reputation that is required to be shown may be less in proceedings under the Trade Practices Act than in proceedings alleging passing off."
Hansen's letter to Rock Art is more concerned with "...a likelihood of confusion and/or dilute the distinctive quality of Hansen's MONSTER marks..." (9/4/2009 letter from Knobbe Martens Olson & Bear LLP to Law office of Christopher Day).
Hansen needs to provide an argument for sufficient reputation in the beer market because the issue is whether a significant number of people would be misled. Since Hansen does not currently sell, distribute, purvey, advertise or market through any means, any G & S: Beer, there is no reputation to blur or mislead.
You can go to Canada:
Cerveceria Modelo, S.A. de C.V. v. Marcon,
Registrar of Trade-marks, application 1,168,019, C.R.
Folz, August 12, 2008) for more regarding "Predatory trademark filer", which is as some believe is what Hansen's next step is once Rock Art is out of the beer business with Vemonster"
Or to Europe:
Intel Corporation Inc v CPM United Kingdom Limited, where chip maker INTEL claimed dilusion/blurring to the distinctive character of INTEL, the chipmaker by INTELMARK, a telephone marketing company. They both have trademarks respectively.
In "The World Intellectual Property Report BNA" dated 1/09 (ISSN 0952-7613),:
"...In one of the most significant parts of its decision, the ECJ found that the use of the later mark (INTELMARK) is, or would be, detrimental to the distinctive character of the earlier mark requires evidence of a change in the economic behaviour of the average consumer of the goods or services for which the earlier mark was registered as a result of the use of the later mark, or a serious likelihood that such a change would occur in the future...."
This is highly unlikely given that the 1/2 the 18 - 30 male target audience is not of legal age to purchase beer. Look at the blogs all over, and you will easily see evidence that the other half overwhelmingly is not confused. Even among Monster Energy drinkers.
Do your homework.
I stand firm with Rock Art Brewery and am trying to rally my readers. Did a post on it here:
http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/2009/10/david...
Spread the word.
-David
See what they are saying here: http://monsterboycott.wordpress.com
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