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Re: Quote 5 Words From the Associated Press? That’ll Be $12.50

Apgetreal — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:48:02 -0000

AP is making a last ditch effort to save their business model which was nullified some time ago. They can try anything, just like anyone can sue anyone. But good luck. Like most of the corporate bullys they will try the little guy first, but won't take on the big money guys like google.

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Bob — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:27:42 -0000

This plan has FAIL written all over it. Let us know how that works out for you.

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wewillchange — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:13:05 -0000

Almost all of the twitter news services pull from AP.

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robert — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:42:56 -0000

Memo to AP: I think that's a grand idea. As your readership tanks(mostly because you fail to print the truth), this will speed your demise. You and Rupert must be on the same page. Keep it up and don't forget to fall squarely on your sword.

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DaleA — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:02:10 -0000

This is asinine. AP knows damn well that in US copyright law the concept of fair use is both well established and well defined. If they start coming after people who are making legitimate use of their content under the umbrella of fair use, they will inevitable be smacked down in court and made to look like fools.

As others have pointed out here, this is just hamhanded scaremongering. If I legally quote AP in my creative work, I am doing them a favor, and they know it.

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Sevastian winters — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:16:15 -0000

Lol... With so many writers proffering opinions these days, it's EASY to imagine identical 5 word strings. If they want to play at a 50 word level , fine, but other than that the AP needs to figure out that the world has changed and there are better ways to secure income than complete propriety. If they ever come looking to me for a fine, I will be more than happy to show them precisely which region of my hirsute glutes open to their kiss. In the meanwhile, Dear AP, Kindly exit to the nearest private place and concentrate all of your efforts on the finer art of self copulation.

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Sevastian winters — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:14:56 -0000

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Keith Coogan — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:01:41 -0000

What about the "Share" button right on the ap news pages on yahoo? If I push that button, does that mean I have to pay the ap for whatever pops up on twitter and my blog.... even though they made the "Share" button so easy to use? Where is the disclaimer that pushing the "Share" button will cost me $12.50?

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maggie — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:40:46 -0000

Let's boycott AP. I can get the same information (worded differently) from other news sites anyway. I say we should just boycott because our community watchdogs are spending more time lying to us than telling us the truth anyway.

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Mark — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:00:00 -0000

Some AP news stories are from other sources that AP themselves have re-reported.

So my question is, will AP pay those sources $2.50 per word from now on?

Better yet....has AP compensated those other news sources for all the past stories they ripped off?

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HandleTheTruth — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:27:52 -0000

>> They are the source of a lot of our news and a valuable journalistic asset..

AP is an asset.. for the federal government sure.. I read AP to see how the propaganda is shaping up and what's the Zionists next move, not to get real news..

I have a feeling this fee is not for you or me, but just to bleed more cash from legitimate news sources that might be using AP... kill the American dream, one industry at a time..

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Doug — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:20:08 -0000

The AP is not a "news" source, it is a Zionist propaganda organ. Why would anyone in their right mind want to pay to pass on someone else's propaganda?

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Bob O'Lary — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:02:42 -0000

OK then A.P. if you want to quote me for a story, You gotta pay me the SAME amount for my words.
Bob O.

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Phojo — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:35:31 -0000

And photographers.

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Phojo — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:25:48 -0000

"Social media helps spread information faster and to more people, which is the point of a wired service like the AP."

The point of a wire service is to provide news/photos to it's clients.

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Joe Minock — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:19:20 -0000

Could the AP please report to the Dead Pool? Um, thanks. I cannot think of a more ignorant position that the AP could take. Lets be serious, they have the Web to thank for syndication of their content. They have been the beneficiary of the network effect time and time again. I cant wait to see the fall out. How long till we can add them to the Dead Pool?

Perhaps maybe the AP is scheming to build the "InterPipe", a crazy new tool with which they can traffic their content without it ever being seen by human eyes. Its the new revolution?

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Jody Pellerin — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:22:16 -0000

There isn't any hard and fast rule about what constitutes fair use. But I also have to wonder: If I used information and a quote from an AP article and it was duly cited in the bibliography of my article or paper if I would still have to pay, seeing as I didn't have to pay to get the information in the first place.

If they want money for their content, let them set up their own site using their own content and charging either per article or for membership to be able to read the articles. AND they would have to stop allowing newspapers to publish AP content because it would be too easy for someone to use the article somewhere else.

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Rocky — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:18:25 -0000

This is absurd stupidity and flies in the face of copyright fair use agreements.

It also ignores the fact that snippets of articles produce link-backs to their pages, so in fact draws more traffic into their site.

Just more proof that Associated Press is an intelligence vacuum which should be avoided by all.

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bustedkeys — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:04:26 -0000

this certainly impedes progress. business isn't just a direct sell of its goods but it's also about building rapport and value with your customers. profits are the result of that relationship and the AP took more than a few steps backward with this move.

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bustedkeys — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:02:38 -0000

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Träsel — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:25:40 -0000

Whatever. I will just ignore any AP story if this plan flies. One can count on lots of other sources. It's the internet, stupid!

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Zackery Moore — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:22:35 -0000

I agree that news sites get more traffic to their content by social media posting quotes and links to the original content, but it's not enough. I support most of what traditional media decides to do so they can recoup some of the money they're losing from people/bloggers using their work unfairly.

The only problem I see in this is that it interferes with "fair use." A better business model could be ad revenue sharing with partnered websites. Or a social media site setting up a partnership with a monthly fee for using content.

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clarafrenchy — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:31:48 -0000

"traffic and attention" aren't going to pay the journalists for doing their job properly (and not copying other people's work).
see The Washpost's "Death of journalism (Gawker edition)"

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clarafrenchy — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:30:33 -0000

"traffic and attention" aren't going to pay the journalists for doing their job properly (and not copying other people's work).
see The Washpost's "Death of journalism (Gawker edition)"

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tdhurst — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:06:18 -0000

Right. Good luck with all that.