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Such behavior should not be tolerated by any of the social media hosts.
There were supposedly legal, peaceful ways for changing government in Merry Old England 250 years ago. However, the House of Commons also stopped representing the people, but kept raising and collecting their taxes. After a while, a bunch of "wack jobs" took particular exception to this and America was born.
You would think our government would look on this as a warning from the past. You would think they would advise one another to stop the power battles and go back to representing us. They feel threatened because they have no intention of representing us then going back home. They want to stay in power for life, like little kings, and that is not what was intended.
FaceBook did the right thing taking down this offensive post. Perhaps today it is simply a disturbed individual, or maybe a stupid attempt to draw attention. If things don't change, I fear that one day it will be a sign of the times.
"Name, aren't you the one who just said when you read social commentary "it denegrates into questioning each others intelligence, name-calling etc." Perhaps you should slow down and read your last two posts... the ones where you refer to others as naive, racist, lacking in character, etc.. This is a typical elitist trait--one that Obama and many of his cronies exhibit. You go on to chastise tiredofpeople for not posting serious debate. Why didn't you respond to his question about racial motivation for attacks on Bush, and his lack of racial motivation towards Obama. I guess it's easier to take the cheap shot and ignore any real debate yourself. You may want to take the plank from your own eye before you pick specks from the eyes of others. But then you would have to turn in the Elitist Club membership badge--and you look so important wearing it! "
My response...Chaz - you have over-looked the fact that there are several guests who appear as "Name", and you have lumped us all in as the same person. Yes I did comment on "tired of people" - because I don't like the attitude that everybody who disagrees with someone must be stupid. That is intolerance in itself. I don't like intolerance of any kind.
I did NOT write a post using words like "naive" / "racist" ....that would have been another poster also appearing as "Name". None of this has to do with politics. It has to do with the fact that somebody out there has introduced an app calling for people to vote on whether or not a human being should be killed. He is a human being. A person. It is irrevelevant whether or not we like him or agree with him. His color of skin is also irrelevant...to me anyway.
I do not "take cheap shots," nor am I an "elitist" (again - you are referring to another poster) and I would like to think that I speak my mind respectfully - no - I KNOW that I do. So your sarcasm and anger is wasted I`m afraid.
There is never any reason to not completely and unequivocally condemn this type of activity from anyone, so veiled statements about violence in your statements are completely wrong and illogical also.
why dont you all take a few minutes and go actually investigate what the hatred is about. why dont you all actually go investigate what your beloved government is actually up to before you defend this clown obama.
If you knew the truth, you wouldnt defend him , and you wouldnt defend any of those pathetic liars up there in your government.
but you wont investigate, your too damn lazy, you would rather do as they say, and never question anything.
so go take your swine flu shots people, big pharma needs lots more money from you suckers...
This is not about defending the "clown" (as you put it) Obama - it is about inciting people to think about whether a certain person should be killed or not. If I created an app that asked the same question, but used the name of someone you cared about instead of Obama - would that be ok?
If you think this was funny, there's something seriously wrong with you.
However, suggesting the assassination of a sitting President is beyond the pale, even by implication or as a joke. A person of any political stripe should feel free to condemn such a threat without qualification and without needing to justify legitimate political action that is not even remotely comparable.
Death is all around us, and this country was designed with the notion that a tyrant will be thrown out when they violate our inalienable rights. According to my calculations, we're long overdue for some new blood on capitol hill.
I have a simple question for the whole lot of you though, who preach all this bit about usurping the incumbent politicians in lieu of violence: How in the hell do you intend to manage that? Sit down and think about that one for about 5 seconds. We have a corrupt two-party system, one where people don't vote by the issue, and solely by party lines. People think voting independent is "throwing away" their vote. THAT is a problem.
Another question: What is 'sane'? Everyone on here is saying he's a "wackjob", or some other variation on that; is it possible, dare I say more likely, that you're a bunch of sheep? Bitch about Bush, Reagan, Clinton and Carter all you want, but NONE of them came close to the ridiculous policies of Barack Obama. Not to mention his condemnation of our soldiers by refusing McChrystal's request... He is a fool, and infringing upon your liberties more and more everyday.
Is this a call to arms? No, of course not. I'm posing questions, questions I'd like to see answered. I also wonder, if in thirty years, will people look back and say: "Why didn't someone just shoot the bastard?", as we do when speaking of other lovely, charismatic socialist leaders, like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Just a thought.
ACORN. Black Water. We could name (point fingers) at many more. The truth is that there is likely at least a kernel of truth to all of the allegations. Finger pointing. "I know you are, but what am I?" These are the tricks of magicians ... Misdirecting us, so we don't notice what's actually happening.
The US is racist? I am a US Citizen. I don't consider myself racist. I judge people individually, based on their behavior, not their ethnicity nor the melanin content of their epidermis.
People who point fingers and call people names (and, yes ... "Racist" is a name) only serve to divide us further, rather than to unite.
The one and only thing that we all have in common is that we are all different. Shouldn't we embrace our differences, rather than hate them?
The following is directed at "tired of people"....
Everytime I read comments about a social issue, it denegrates into questioning each others intelligence, name-calling etc. Wow. That's useful. What the hell is compelling you to talk in such a condescending manner to people who are here to debate an important issue? You feed the fire of disrespect. If people cared enough about an issue, they would debate it in a respectful manner. ...do something in their own lives to make a positive difference.
No matter how small the contribution, at least you'd be doing your part instead of being an arm-chair activist, who gets annoyed at the outrageousness of this world, but simmers in it - instead of attempting to make some contribution to make it better. I don't doubt that you are intelligent. But I do doubt what kind of character you bring to the table. We are all just trying to get through this life. You cared enough to take the time and effort to post your opinion....wouldnt it be more useful to build an army of people for change, rather than alienating yourself from everyone else by your comments? What a waste of energy.
You go on to chastise tiredofpeople for not posting serious debate. Why didn't you respond to his question about racial motivation for attacks on Bush, and his lack of racial motivation towards Obama. I guess it's easier to take the cheap shot and ignore any real debate yourself. You may want to take the plank from your own eye before you pick specks from the eyes of others. But then you would have to turn in the Elitist Club membership badge--and you look so important wearing it!
I think that fm now on there will be more "wackjobs" coming into fruition. I see it aimed at the president but it is only because he has the power to change things and do good, However I do not think that he has done much good at all and will run the country into the ground by his lack of commitment ot actually doing good. SO corruption will continue running rampant, you and I will still have to continue financing bail-outs, foreign aid, Oh yeah and the new "green" car project that has the $500M plus loan from the government that will create jobs in Finland or wherever and sell for $89,000.00. I know I will not be able to afford that, how about you? The American people are being run by the governent, not the other way around. It does no good for us, our money lines their pockets. People are sick of the abuse and getting a way to vent.
The majority of facebook users will naturally ignore the poll and get on with their day.
Unfortunately, organizations are in such a state of alarm and overreact to any offensive material.
I'm not sure an "'indirect' threat to the president" is (or should be) against the law. You are walking a fine line on freedom of speech trying to define "indirect". Are politicians an "indirect threat" to Obama's safely because they incite violence by ignoring their constituents. You can go anywhere with that sort of logic.
As far as the other issue you bring up about a choice in paying for bailing out the banking system and automakers: Yes, you did have a choice. I don't think it was a good idea either, but we have a representative democracy and our representatives whom we elected chose to approve the bailouts. Vote them out of office next time.
And the Federal Income Tax is permitted under the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, so not sure why you say it's not legal.
I am a Sociologist - and I am convinced that we all are responsible for society as a whole. And for what it has become. Every one of us. The answer to the world's ills in my lowly opinion - is respect for one another and for the direction society takes. If there was respect for your spouse, there would be no cheating. If there was respect for children, there would not be violence in music. If there was respect for different races, there would not be race-based violence. If there was respect for society as a whole - there would not be XXX video stores on every corner - you get the idea.
We ALL have shaped the society that we live in. Either by our apathy - or active participation.
WE are the ones with the power. We just don't realise it.
You can say whatever you want BUT there is a consequence to free speech. Just like I can protest the tax laws but I have to be willing to go to prison for that stance.
To me, free speech is standing there listening to a person say at the top of his lungs what you would spend a lifetime protesting at the top of yours.
But back to the issue, I agree with Obama on about .0000000000001% of his policies, but I would never wish him dead. I don’t like it, but he is the president. I will respect the office but protest the man and his policies. I will NEVER disrespect the office or my country!
With every “right” comes a responsibility. Unfortunately today, everyone has a right but nobody has a responsibility.
Should Obama be allowed to make American senior citizens die early by cutting half a trillion dollars from Medicare?
__ Yes
__ No
Let's make the conservative assumption that Obama's attack on the elderly will cause the affected people to die an average of 6 months earlier. Since 44 million are now on Medicare, that's a total of 22 million years of life that will be destroyed. Assuming an average life span of 65 years, that is the equivalent of over 300,000 assassinations!
Obama is currently 48 years old. So let's make the generous assumption that he could be expected to live 22 more years, to the age of 70. The question then is: what should be causing us the most concern, one person losing 22 years of life, or all of our nation's seniors losing a million times that much?
So do you suppose that the U.S. Secret Service will be investigating this administration's senior genocide plot? I doubt it.
BTW, my answer to both of these polls is NO.
Facebook is a business. Rich beyond belief.
It is their business to do what is right - just like we expect every other business in society to do what is right. Why should we not hold the internet to account?
What do you think?
There's just no reason for hate like this on the internet.
Looks like it is just a backtrack of sites and shares that are linking this article. For isntance, if I tweet this page or share it on Facebook, then I would be creating two new reactions.
I agree with Douglas Paul; 'post racial' America does not exist, sadly.
I didn't voted in that poll but I think it was ok. Someone wanted to know how many people are tired of Obama... so what?
I am really not sure how you think that this poll was ok in any form.
This poll has nothing to do with who's "Tired of Obama." it specifically asks if he should be killed. No room is left for ambiguity in the author's intent. I hope they get hammered for this stupid crap.
You don't have to play the race card anytime someone says something bad about Obama, and in the end, does it really matter if it's racial, political, wacko, religious, sexual, etc... The implied threat is still the same. Just ask the Secret Service.
What a cop out! If Google can check and approve AdWords ads - of which there are a lot more than 350,000 - Facebook CAN be expected check apps. If they hired an offshore team, they could probably check hundreds of thousands of apps for a couple million dollars per year. It's probably worth it just to avoid the potential lawsuits.
after all this is america and we still have freedom of speech like all rights must be tempered with responceability after he won which means we either impeach him (assuming he does an impeachable offence) or grin and bear it till next election.
with that said the person who made the poll is who should brunt the secret service wrath many people missuse things of good pourpose and mabe the app creator could install some safeguards but is not responcible for a nut who abused his tool
loyal americans stand united through all adversities
Sociologist
You know what? There always have been and always will be a few crazy people on pretty much any side. Same with racists. But MOST people on BOTH SIDES are just genuinely concerned about this country and honestly believe that their political views are best, and trying to discredit them with wild accusations is disingenuous. I'm not saying we have to sit quietly and refuse to discuss politics lest someone's precious sensibilities be offended, but can we please have our loud, vigorous, passionate, heartfelt debate while remembering that those on the other side are people, too? When we feel stirred by the issues can we take to the streets with our handmade signs and protest without being called godless unAmerican traitors or racist Astro-turfed Nazis?
And when someone pulls an incredibly stupid stunt and suggests that our President (Bush, Obama, anyone) be assassinated, can we stop the finger pointing at anyone except the idiot who actually did it?
Oh, and by the way, even if someone did try to take a shot at Obama, it wouldn't necessarily be racist. Politicians have been assassinated for centuries, longer, without race as an issue.
I'll start. This is me, a dyed-in-the-cloth conservative who opposes Obama on virtually everything, saying that I hope whoever started that poll is investigated, and if they broke any laws, prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I hope no harm ever comes to Obama until he dies from old age, quietly and peacefully and surrounded by those who loved him.
Does it matter? It gives people an opportunity to voice their opinion. How longer are we going to be able to do that? Obama is nothing more than a corrupt Capitalist that is going to lead this country to nowhere fast. This is a trend that sadly won't go away. Have fun voting your freedom away, dear America.
And before anyone accuses me of being a racist (I've heard this on here a few times) I'm not. I believe anyone, regardless of race or gender, can be president. It is by their merits, not by the color of their skin or sex, that determine whether or not they should hold their position.
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While it is true that the President is well guarded and an assassination attempt would be difficult, it is not impossible. For one thing, you are completely wrong about the President having "stunt doubles." That is pure Hollywood fiction -- in real life there are no Obama look-alikes out there giving speeches while the "real" President hides away. Secondly, you do not have to look all the way back to "Abraham Lincoln" days for attempts on an American president's life. Kennedy was killed while surrounded by the Secret Service. Reagan was shot and wounded (his lung was punctured) leaving the Washington Hilton after giving a speech in 1981. That was less than a month before I was born, and I am not even 30. You don't believe that anyone would be willing to risk jail to kill Obama, but there have been reports that he receives as many as 30 death threats a day. Clearly there are people willing to risk jail just to make the threat -- to assume that none of them would actually go through with it is dangerously naive.
The Secret Service has to investigate every threat to the President's life or safety. That is part of what keeps the President so safe and makes an assassination so difficult. The Secret Service has a hard enough job just investigating legitimate threats even when a President is popular. Having to chase down idiots who think it's funny to post polls suggesting a sitting President be killed makes their jobs harder and thins their resources, which IMO is reason enough to prosecute -- sort of like going after people who make false police reports.
And that's coming from a conservative mom in Houston, who doesn't like this President's agenda but still doesn't want to see him harmed.
You can not even be considered serious until you drop the punctuation free "internet/txt speak, try figuring out how to use a spell check (are you sure you haven't cheated your way to 8th grade? abraham lichoin?) and generally get your head checked back in off of Space Mountain, TMZ and The Hills.
You and your peers are the biggest liability this country currently faces.
Do us and yourself (before say, you have to fill out a job application) a favor and get it together.
You can start by just paying attention to the world around you and figure out that it extends beyond your cell phone and text messages . . .
honestly people go crazy over black people, no one would really care if he was white.
so much for being equal.
Why, oh WHY does everyone keep saying that? He is a person - why does it matter that he's black? Why do people assume that everybody's posts are riddled with suggestions that this has something to do with the fact that he is black? He is a human being. He could be purple with orange stripes for all I care. The fact is, I truly don't care what colour he is.....He is a person.
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I have not read all the posts and I do not promote the poll.
I also do not believe it is necessary for the SS to go after the individual for making such a poll.
Anyone here send the SS after the film maker of "Death of a President", which explicitly depicted the assassination of GWB? No you did not and it was called a serious film.
How about all the bloggers who posted their wishes that someone would assassinate GWB?
All your feigned outrage is hypocrisy of the best kind. We the American people can see you for your double standard and dictatorial ideals. Arrest and incarcerate those that disagree with Obama. Seems you guys where complaining about this under Bush. Now the shoes on the other foot and you don't like it. Ah to bad. Maybe next time you will think about your actions if you do not want them repeated upon yourself.
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What goes around, comes around.
I'm glad America isn't the country people look upon for ideas anymore! America's no better than Iran or Israel, they kill people because of religion, views and their belief also!
America, WAKE UP!!! Start learning to coincide with one another and stop being the brain dead idiots you're portraying. If you want to change something do it the right way, stop teaching children of tomorrow to hate and more to appreciate life and care for all human beings. This world needs to stop being so angry!
USA rules without all the hatred...
So seriously tell me what Obama has done that is taking this county into socialism? Healthcare? Oh okay, lets talk about that! I have a brain tumor, lost my job of 7 years because of the economy, but now I can't get health care for medication or MRI's to see how bad it's getting because it's a PRE-EXISTING issue! But you're right screw everyone who can't afford it or have pre-existing issues and won't be able to get healthcare, they probably don't deserve to live anyways. We should just tell their families, look we like it the way it is so if you die to bad! This country is so religious with whatever god people pray to, but which god says to hell with all mankind live for yourself and let others perish in agony! Now, I've lived and have three beautiful kids so if I die tomorrow so be it, but there are children out there that aren't getting the same treatment as myself because of the problem with our healthcare system so if you think socialism will come about by fixing this problem, then you're a very sorry little man!
LIVE SOCIALISM THEN YOU CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT IT!!!! OTHERWISE SHUT THE HELL UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CLUE TO WHAT YOU"RE SAYING!!!
Just because people are offended doesn't mean you don't have the right to say it.
If someone wrote a quiz that said "Should Osama be killed?" this would not get taken off facebook. The American government isn't working for us anymore and people are realizing it and are tired of it. Plan and simple.
If words offend you then you should probably live in a more oppressive society and not try to change this country into one.
Secondly, as you said, lots of presidents have been threatened and more, yes. But I don't think anyone is making a bigger deal about threats against Obama than other presidents. For one thing, there isn't a huge deal made about *every* threat made against Obama -- this is the first one I have read about. Secondly, I do remember reading about threats against Bush, so at least some of those were considered news, too. So what makes this threat newsworthy when others aren't? Simple, it's the novelty of it having been posted on Facebook -- the juxtaposition of modern technology and old-fashioned political turmoil. Let's face it, Facebook is more popular than any president in this age.
You going to try to arrest me if I ask a poll of how many people here think you (or a president) should be publicly b!tch smacked? just for fun?
Thousands of these polls have been going online since the marxist idiot announce he was going to drag racism through the white house over a year ago. Millions of eyes have been opened.
Here's a poll question for you:
Would you prefer to vote him out in 2012 (to save his life and whats left of Amerika) or wait to see if he actually does get assassinated by educated tax paying white guys who prefer not to have the blood of their Grandfathers pissed on by a marxist?
Yes?
No?
Dont give a rats azz either way?
or ...no such people exist. Oprah rulez!
Grow up or get the hell off the internet. You people make me sick. Your constitution is under attack and you not only don't care, you are too ignorant to see it. You want your welfare state and your government promises. You sell your country and government to the highest bidder and you scream bloody murder if someone threatens to have you make do with what you got until you can afford what you want. Credit bankrupted this nation, and your liberal left wing pity party is bankrupting your shrinking constitution.
I totally understand why people are asking the question. Totally. Its obvious to the rest of us that there are far too many idiots voting to make an educated decision about leadership. It scares the living daylight out of you that a 12 year old has the balls to ask what you yourself think or fear and wont speak. Your rage now expresses the depth of your arrogance and your ignorance. Kids blow people away.. This one blew your mind and didn't even have a gun... roflmmfao
The IDIOT that should be punished is the fool who reported the poll. He's no better than an Arsonist who set a fire and waited to watch the good guys put the flames out. The Secret service investigates ALL reports of threats on any sitting president. So, while this was going on... and my money is paying for it, how many real threats were communicated elsewhere? Is this all it takes to whip up a good publicity frenzy? Hell, Maybe I ought to go launch a website with a new poll....
I can list 20 sites and polls right now that are on the web. All you got to do is go google "assassinate obama" and look what pops up... I aint going to waste my time or pump up this sites reference tags doing that. This blog is loaded with BS enough as it is.
Sure... Be "appalled"...lol be "Infuriated"... be "OUTRAGED!" ...and while you are at it, try not to forget that a 12 year old got a good taste of American Hypocrisy at its finest. ...And you wonder why these kids murder their parents...lmao
They gotta pay your bills stupid.
-Angry American
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Should Roman Polanski be prosecuted?
Should Madonna marry again?
Should Obama be killed?
I don't have the cash to bail out the car industry, There are others that would do a better job of prosceuting Polanski and I am not going to marry Madonna - I am not offering to do any of the above and where is the THREAT????
My guess is that even if some member of a white nationalist supremacy loony klan wanted to do so he would do it and not try to attract attention to himself and if it was a terrorist organization I don't think they would use social profile sites to gather intelligence unlike the American "Intelligence" agencies are obviously doing.
To bring race into this is pathetic - if you want everyone to like you don't become president - no matter what your colour. To suggest, believe or even comment that whether America is (or not) racist (still) is equally dense. I don't know how many peopl voted for Obama but even if it was 150 million probably 50 million of those were voting for him even though he is black because the alternative was less desirable. To draw a conclusion from the election of Obama as President means that all America (even half of America) now is ahppy having Jay Z as a neighbour is naive. I wouldn't be surprised if the Secret Service has a few agents in there who may have some strong beliefs about having a black president.
And for those who believe in peaceful ways of changing governments and how apalling this is let's be honest America has changed a few (foreign) governments over the years and has been involved in its share of assassinations... if you include wars who knows how many have perished, lost family and suffered... on a scale of 1 to 10 of appalling this poll - which was not even asking "Should I kill Obama?" may be a 3.
Should Obama be allowed to make American senior citizens die early by cutting half a trillion dollars from Medicare?
__ Yes
__ No
Let's make the conservative assumption that Obama's attack on the elderly will cause the affected people to die an average of 6 months earlier. Since 44 million are now on Medicare, that's a total of 22 million years of life that will be destroyed. Assuming an average life span of 65 years, that is the equivalent of over 300,000 assassinations!
Obama is currently 48 years old. So let's make the generous assumption that he could be expected to live 22 more years, to the age of 70. The question then is: what should be causing us the most concern, one person losing 22 years of life, or all of our nation's seniors losing a million times that much?
So do you suppose that the U.S. Secret Service will be investigating this administration's senior genocide plot? I doubt it.
BTW, my answer to both of these polls is NO.
First, two posts, two different posting names/identities.
Having a hard time keeping them straight?
And then the inability to post as a reply, so someone might have an idea of what you are referencing, but that would be too hard.
But never fear, same indecipherable gibberish.
No, I stand by my first assessment.
Ignorant and biased? Sure. What else would I expect you to think of someone who is wondering how you made it to eighth grade with zero communication skills?
Let me speak a language you can understand: "Whatever."
If you think someone wondering how you could come away from that conversation thinking you made some sort of point short of standing in the spotlight of your youthful failure is judgmental, than consider yourself judged.
But better to have been judged and lost, than learn something before you speak and be cast as doomed for all time in a web of ignorant bliss . . .
If the perpetrator of this act turns out to be a child, then, we adults in the country are the ones who are completely culpable for this young man or young lady developing the kind of attitude to feel comfortable with proposing such a question. We have failed as a nation in raising our children, if they have learned that this is how democracy works, and we should feel more than ashamed for our colossal disappointment. However, if this is an adult, that person should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, because it is time to put a stop to this type of idiotic behavior and show that we, as a nation, are above the level of barbarians.
Thank you for your reasonable 100% accurate comment.
If the comments posted on this thread are a true cross section of this country (both adult and children,) then I would think those people might just benefit from the mythical and dreaded "indoctrination" that contained the tenants of tolerance, respect, ability to seek out truth as opposed to being a sponge for lies based in hate, and most importantly, the ability to snap out of the frame of immediate gratification and embrace the notion of long term gain over short term complacency, which is the sole reason this country is in the shape it's in.
No politician in the past half century has cared to move on issues that might be considered unpopular by the uninformed masses, in fear of losing votes for re-election. No, they been happy to feed the children cotton candy instead of a well balance meal that included vegetables. This is what has put our country in the dumper and I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK TOO ! The country that is not ruled by the boorish cries of the oblivious who are content to spend the rest of their days on the couch eating junk food instead of their vegetables because "they don't like vegetables."
Some of you will understand this. Most of you won't.
To those that don't, enjoy your cotton candy candy universe.
And for any of you who are claiming this idiocy is not racial, you've got an 800 pound gorilla in the room that you need to acknowledge . . .
There are many other issues on Facebook that continue without much sympathy from Facebook. I hope they continue to strengthen in revenue flow so more resources are allocated to helping users who have very legitimate and at times very serious issues.
If it sounds like I have some very specific experience with this it is because I do.