without apple. You and all the other ignorant pc users would be using windows 98 right now. Microsoft would never bother to update any products and you would be forced to keep buying their virus bloated crap.
Planet_Earth
· 1 month ago
Ahh - don't you mean 'without Linux/Unix'? Apple's Mac OS was built on FreeBSD (a Unix-based OS as I recall).
Mac OS is a good OS, made frustratingly annoying by the fact that it runs on a limited range of hardware - i.e. Apple's own hardware.
Linux/Unix are great alternatives that support a much greater range of drivers, allowing them to run on the average or custom-built PC.
The Ubuntu Linux family of OSs is even making Linux accessible to computer-'phobes' these days.
Name
· 1 month ago
Why do you say that? They should lose a billion dollars and then raise the prices for their products? Who loses out here in the long run? Apple or their customers??? Really!
Planet_Earth
· 1 month ago
Well - no-one's forcing you to buy Apple's products are they?
If the analysts are correct and Nokia do win the case, then Apple should have been paying a license for Nokia's patented technologies.
Sounds like Nokia's been trying to play fair, while Apple have been playing the spoilt cheating brat.
Besides, Apple's iPhone has many shortcomings that really turn me off the product like: * Hardware inflexibility - can't expand the existing hardware, nor replace the battery yourself. * Inadequate A/V recording features - Nokia's less featured phones are better in this area. * Apple's Multi-Touch, which other phone companies seem to be respecting (or a treating cautiously) - something which Apple itself can't seem to do.
Planet_Earth
· 1 month ago
Clarification to the above - I was referring to "Apple's Multi-Touch Patent"
Name
· 1 month ago
I agree. Apple sux. The only reason Apple is around is because of Microsoft, you fool ... who do you think funds them?! Apple is a bigger bully than MS could ever dream of being. All their proprietary crap ... how do you think MS got a foot hold? It is because IBM built a machine which they SHARED the technology and MS built an OS for that platform while MAC decided they wanted both sides of the pie (hardware and software). They only reason MAC's don't have viruses like MS is because NO BODY USES THEM! While MAC's may have had their place with graphic technology, they are loosing their margin because they are making stupid decisions ... STILL!
Andrew MacDonald
· 1 month ago
Shut up idiot. Not even man enough to leave your name for god sake
Name
· 1 month ago
Idiot? I don't see any basis for your comments. Mac users are fools, the whole bunch of ya.
Andrew MacDonald
· 1 month ago
Maybe there is no basis to call you an idiot, but lets face it 'name', you have no basis by which to call us "mac users are fools, the whole bunch of ya."
Anderson Mccutcheon
· 1 month ago
Or maybe, he's using the net like it's supposed to be used - anonymously. I usually do.
anothername_name
· 1 month ago
some people have no idea, the only reason microsoft is around is because of apple, bill gates worked for steve jobs, then copied the MAC OS and created windows, its fact. in a couple of years time apple will surpass microsoft in wealth and size, this is another fact.
the reason apple is doing so well again is because the average consumer wants a product that works well, and windows is just terrible. even the MS ceo balmer suggests people should downgrade from vista to xp, lets hope windows 7 is better. for the average consumer its not about price, its about quality of product. and apple provide a better user experience.
Kuya Bodjie
· 1 month ago
Nooooooooooooo! This can't be. Apple invented the iPhone and all it's beautiful features. Damn you Nokia for suing Apple. Apple invented touchscreen. Apple invented the smartphone. Apple invented the computer. This article is trash!
Are you new to the tech world or just an applebot? First of all Palm created the smart phone and Blackberry perfected it apple also didn't invent touchscreen cicsco did and furthermore apple didnt invent the computer that's just stupid. The Iphone is cool and Apple has great technology but they arent the end all be all of computers and mobile tech i guess when it comes to posting ignorant comments iphone has an app for that??
I wanted to correct myself in 1971, Dr. Samuel C. Hurst - the founder of Elo TouchSystems - invented the world’s first electronic touchscreen interface. Today, over 30 years later, Elo is still leading the way: not only are we considered the standard for touch technology, we are also renowned for our wide range of integrated touchscreen systems as well as our dedicated customer service.
That would be a NO jeff. But it sure does entertain...
advocatus
· 1 month ago
All I can do laugh.
wimpy80
· 1 month ago
Apple invented touch screen???? What are you on crack? I love my Mac and my PC they server very different purposes for me. My Mac is great for graphic design and their enormous files. That said Apple is a bully way worse then MS. I got a crack on my MacBook Pro screen that was clearly a defect in product (started at the edge of screen where you lift it) and because it had started to spider by the time I got to meet a Mac Genius (which they are not I know more about those PC's then they do, I've been on one since I was 4 - old Apple II - great machine) they claimed it had to have been hit where the spidering started even though the edge showed distress in the glass and the spidering was clean of any distress to the glass. Windows 7 though is pushing me away from Apple as it runs fast and design wise it can now outperform my Mac because for the same money I can get way more PC then I can Mac. Configured the same I think they would be close to equal. Oh by the way to fix a crack on a Macbook glass screen is $1400 from Apple. Half the cost of the overpriced machine in the first place. It is pretty though with no cracks (TIP buy the matte screen. It's a downgrade and $60 extra dollars - yeah messed up - but you won't need to worry about an inevitable crack on the glass and insane repair costs).
Michael
· 1 month ago
TBH whilst this could lead to more problems than just the money, when they've something like $20 billion in the bank it's not disastrous.
Kuya Bodjie
· 1 month ago
Hell Yeah! Way to go Nokia!
advocatus
· 1 month ago
Good job, Nokia. Knock Apple down a peg, or two... or five.
fixator
· 1 month ago
Go Nokia! Fuck them up!
Francisco Leyton G
· 1 month ago
cool
kemblepdx
· 1 month ago
They(Apple) should pay what they owe. If someone was out there using Apple technology to create a product I bet they would jump on them with a team of lawyers.
Phil
· 1 month ago
Apple did not such thing, apple are just an overprices glorifed unix, people complain about microsoft hogging the market, but at least microsoft let other people do the hardware and other software. and the iphone, overhyped, i mean when it came out i thought cool, but then i find out it has a crap camera, no multimedia messages, no copy and paste, no video camera, list goes on. Nokia know how to make phones properly
Jason Rukus
· 1 month ago
Technology companies steal, no sorry "borrow", from each other all the time. Nobody is reinventing the wheel, it's actually a pretty low occurrence to get anything that resembles the discovery of fire... and even that was ripping of nature. I seem to recall a certain copying company and some peripheral devices it had developed...
This should be interesting either way as these sorts of legal battles generally are.
Diego Navarrete Campos
· 1 month ago
cool
pavank
· 1 month ago
Two great companies, shame they cannot work together for the advancement of technology and our end-user experience. Is that really a lot to pay, or are i-phone sales/profits easily going to cover the cost of damages?
Puneet
· 1 month ago
pavank, please understand that these two great companies are two hugely successful businesses which are competing for the same market. They are not out on a mission of social service. Richard Stallman (FSF/GNU) is. What are views on Qualcomm then?
Brett Lange
· 1 month ago
This will be interesting to see how it all turns out...
Chris @ RizzoTees
· 1 month ago
If Nokia destroys the iPhone, I shall never forgive
Phil
· 1 month ago
theres more phones out there that are even better chris and nokia make some brilliant phones
Puneet
· 1 month ago
Thank god you are not the king of the world.
Name
· 1 month ago
Why is it this sounds like a middle school lunchroom with bickering between the cliques? If Apple did something wrong then yes they should pay. End of story. If they didn't, then they shouldn't pay.
And both Apple and Microsoft make some great products and, just like Apple, Microsoft overprices their products, too. Why else would they sell Windows 7, essentially Vista with the upgrades it should have had in the first place, for $100+ when Apple sells Snow Leopard for $30. Both companies are guilty of proprietary bullshit and jacking up prices and this is coming from someone who owns both a mac and a PC.
nickc321
· 1 month ago
sounds like it will probably run the same course as the NTP v RIM case... will drag on forever... there will be a few heavy blows, but in the end Apple will owe less then they should.
amrit01
· 1 month ago
Go Nokia! Show 'em what you're made of. Go chib up Apple!
Nokia's phones have had simple features which the iPhone has only just got!
susant1963
· 1 month ago
Apple makes a better product and all the other companies should just get over it. If Nokia had the technology and didn't make it more user friendly shame on them. Such a fruit salad--apple and sour grapes.
Henry
· 1 month ago
I have heard this news that was huge apple is gonna have a big problem!
flow_hoe
· 1 month ago
I can't believe what I read here. What is unfair about the lawsuit? Many companies like Nokia, Qualcomm and co have invested billions in developing the technologies. Then comes along Apple, builds a great device but STEALS the intellectual property and technology from others and makes the general audience believe they invented it. And don't even want to pay licencing to the people who invested hard money and creative thinking into research and standardisation. Unfortunately as always Apple will be seen as a minor competitor and get away with it. Ridiculous. PS: See soon: Touchscreen Tablet PCs have been around for several years now (but not selling well e.g. HP), but once the Apple Tablet comes out they will celebrate it as the greatest invention of the decade.
uditvanudas
· 1 month ago
Go on Nokia. Apple needs to have its wings clipped. And fanboys..jeez...get a life..Nokia's been in mobile phones space for a long time...and heck if they've done the expensive R&D then Apple should pay them for using the tech...else Apple is no better than a dolled up version of the old Microsoft...new MS is getting more customer friendly.
And honestly, the day customers suffer high prices of Apple products, that's the day companies like Nokia, will swarm the US marketplace. HTC is already there. You wait and watch. There many more suits to come Apple's way. 1 Infinite Loop, you're in legal shit soon. And its about time.
Jussi
· 1 month ago
Without Nokia's patents Iphone is just Ipod touch.
How long time Nokia have been on market? When they put wifi to cell? When they developed 3G and handsets ?
apple ? when ?
Name
· 1 month ago
yeah same sue apple! go nokia and windows 7 ;)
Name
· 1 month ago
i used to be an "Apple hater". i have had numerous windows machines...then i decided to go a different route and get a MacBook Pro. I will never buy a windows machine again. And I just recently purchased an iPhone after having the Blackberry Tour for 3 months. It's an amazing product. I urge you "Apple haters" to try out a Macintosh or an iPhone and say that you hate it. I'll bet $50 dollars that without a biased opinion you will love what you get.
Brian
· 1 month ago
I have tried both a Mac and and an iPhone. Needless to say I am running a PC and using a Blackberry. The iPhone is a piece of crap. Maybe if Apple didn't hold back features and cripple the device it wouldn't be as bad. When I buy something it is mine and I want to be able to whatever I want with it. As far as using a Mac goes. It was ok but I still prefer a PC. If Mac OS could run legally on a PC I might consider using it but I am not going to pay more for their proprietary hardware.
Name
· 1 month ago
Nokia is still around... I thought they died off.
Morten Thorpe
· 1 month ago
I bet that Apple will bargain that it can discredit Nokia in the press, by questioning their real intentions with this suit. Questioning Nokia's intentions, and their status as a smartphone-marketer right now. Apple is great at spinning things in media, and will no doubt see this as an option to brand Nokia as an "innovation-killer", rather than focusing on competing in the market. I also bet that Apple will lose this case in court, but win it in public opinion - as hinted above. Neither Apple, Nokia or anyone else is interested in being able to abuse others' IPR's, because they can equally be target for the same abuse in turn.
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Mac OS is a good OS, made frustratingly annoying by the fact that it runs on a limited range of hardware - i.e. Apple's own hardware.
Linux/Unix are great alternatives that support a much greater range of drivers, allowing them to run on the average or custom-built PC.
The Ubuntu Linux family of OSs is even making Linux accessible to computer-'phobes' these days.
If the analysts are correct and Nokia do win the case, then Apple should have been paying a license for Nokia's patented technologies.
Sounds like Nokia's been trying to play fair, while Apple have been playing the spoilt cheating brat.
Besides, Apple's iPhone has many shortcomings that really turn me off the product like:
* Hardware inflexibility - can't expand the existing hardware, nor replace the battery yourself.
* Inadequate A/V recording features - Nokia's less featured phones are better in this area.
* Apple's Multi-Touch, which other phone companies seem to be respecting (or a treating cautiously) - something which Apple itself can't seem to do.
the reason apple is doing so well again is because the average consumer wants a product that works well, and windows is just terrible. even the MS ceo balmer suggests people should downgrade from vista to xp, lets hope windows 7 is better. for the average consumer its not about price, its about quality of product. and apple provide a better user experience.
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and the iphone, overhyped, i mean when it came out i thought cool, but then i find out it has a crap camera, no multimedia messages, no copy and paste, no video camera, list goes on. Nokia know how to make phones properly
This should be interesting either way as these sorts of legal battles generally are.
And both Apple and Microsoft make some great products and, just like Apple, Microsoft overprices their products, too. Why else would they sell Windows 7, essentially Vista with the upgrades it should have had in the first place, for $100+ when Apple sells Snow Leopard for $30. Both companies are guilty of proprietary bullshit and jacking up prices and this is coming from someone who owns both a mac and a PC.
Nokia's phones have had simple features which the iPhone has only just got!
that was huge
apple is gonna have a big problem!
And honestly, the day customers suffer high prices of Apple products, that's the day companies like Nokia, will swarm the US marketplace. HTC is already there. You wait and watch. There many more suits to come Apple's way. 1 Infinite Loop, you're in legal shit soon. And its about time.
How long time Nokia have been on market? When they put wifi to cell? When they developed 3G and handsets ?
apple ? when ?
I also bet that Apple will lose this case in court, but win it in public opinion - as hinted above. Neither Apple, Nokia or anyone else is interested in being able to abuse others' IPR's, because they can equally be target for the same abuse in turn.