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Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Kent Chen — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:20:40 -0000

Wrong.

Why on earth can't Microsoft make their own product as default on their own OS?

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Alex Lim — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:16:19 -0000

Personally I feel that Microsoft have made enough sacrifices with these antitrust laws and feel that Apple don’t seem to have restrictions on their Safari browser, so why should Microsoft.

http://www.pupuweb.com/blog...

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

cymru2000 — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:15:23 -0000

"Nevertheless, happy day when MS is out of business because of opensource and netbooks."

Don't expect that day happening anytime soon then, because most businesses wont consider moving from full blown Desktops/Laptops with Microsoft products on them. Whether it's right or wrong for business to be so closed minded isn't really the point, just that they are. I've seen very few companies using any opensource products outside of their IT departments.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

dwinkle — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:32:01 -0000

I call bullshit. My machine came with Vista, worked excellently with said Vista, and continues to run peachy on Seven. I have a dual core Intel, 3 gb of ram, and inbred Intel 940 graphics. It never locks up, crashes, or drags, and it doesn't on two other machines I knew well. If you can't use a PC, buy a Mac and shut up.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

dwinkle — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:47:33 -0000

Seriously, grow up. Would you expect anything less from Microsoft? If you don't know how to launch Firefox without a desktop icon, stop using Windows. Get Mac if you want the computer to do everything for you.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Jamie Buchanan — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:12:35 -0000

Setting IE as the default browser will have little effect if any, the demographic of people who are installing and testing Windows 7 will more than likely be savvy enough to be able to choose and install their own prefered browser within about 9 seconds of the first boot.

Like Tom said, It's Windows, it comes with IE for a reason - If it didn't, how would you get to the Firefox download page?

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

jadm5000 — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:36:57 -0000

Amen!

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

jadm5000 — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:34:39 -0000

I have used windows 7 build 7000 and 7100 on a Toshiba A205-S5804 also 2 Dell laptops, benchmarking actually shows it is as slow as Vista and slower than XP but it's biggest problem here is Opera, FF and IE8 are slow and using eithr to download the downloads are extremely slow and even stop no matter what we do and we are no pc newbs by far. The Windows 7 Betas stink and are just Vista with some changes and a new name.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Phayke — Wed, 13 May 2009 21:06:29 -0000

It doesn't seem like it really matters much. I don't know any IE users with the know-how or interest in using a test build of an operating system. And if the RC DID get installed on their computer they'd say 'Why'd you put it like that? I had all it just how I wanted it!' These types of people care nothing of browsers.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Madvil — Wed, 13 May 2009 15:56:25 -0000

I don't see how this will stop any firefox/opera user from reinstalling and remaking his favorite browser as default but yeah, let's whine more about an unreleased product some more.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

JC — Wed, 13 May 2009 04:35:10 -0000

You do know what an RC is, right? It's a Release Candidate. Unless additional bugs are found (or something like this comes up), it's the exact same version that Microsoft will be stamping onto CDs (sans the expiration date and "Evaluation copy" text).

If Mozilla and Opera don't make a fuss right now, they'll have lost their chance and the issue will still be present in the final version.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

T Man — Mon, 11 May 2009 08:32:09 -0000

If you guys have a problem with this, there are mechanisms to communicate this issue with MS. Since it is an RC and they are still working on it, I can't say, and neither can anyone here, say that MS is doing this intentionally or if there is a coding error.

I like Firefox, but it seems that Mozilla just wants to jump on the bash MS bandwagon and get a piece of the pie. Firefox has grown by building a better browser and an enthusiastic user base. IE has gotten quite good. Folks, you gotta a build a better mousetrap if you want the market share cheese.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Marc Handelman — Sun, 10 May 2009 15:41:15 -0000

Other issues executing Mozilla binaries have also come to light... A small example is screen redraws: When utilizing Mozilla or Opera browsers, a significant time lag in the screen redraw (enough to notice), as well as a very short 'blink' becomes evident. The browsers do not necessarily behave in the same manner as on previous version of Windows. Furthermore, at this point in our testing (on multiple machines, all Core2 Duos), IE8 does behave the same on Vista, XP as well as Seven. Of course, this may also be an indication of the 'beta' status of the RC.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Alex — Fri, 08 May 2009 23:17:55 -0000

I am a pretty confused that this is even headline news! If you do not like Internet Explorer as your default browser.... open firefox and press MAKE DEFAULT BROWSER!

FML... this is lame! Can I not get a second?

It is Microsoft's new operating systems and browser.... why wouldn't they want to increase market share.... is that not the point of a software company? (=

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Idiot — Fri, 08 May 2009 19:08:47 -0000

Stop your fucking whining. Take three seconds and change it your fucking self. It's called fucking EXPRESS for a reason, douchebag. And defaulting to IE doesn't change the fact that the user who has another browser will OPEN THAT FUCKING BROWSER INSTEAD OF IE ANYWAY.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Jason Rybka — Fri, 08 May 2009 19:06:49 -0000

Tom, I am in agreement with you. I am a huge fan of Firefox (my default browser; has been for years), however, I find it cheeky that Opera and Mozilla (and anyone/thing) say it's wrong for Microsoft to include their own software in their own operating system. It makes PERFECT sense to include their own software in their own operating system. It makes NO sense however, for them not to.
I hate to say it, but I think it's more out of spite that they are complaining to Microsoft. They (M & O) know that they don't stand a chance in taking over the market whilst ever IE is shipped out with Windows (because as we all know: there's more novice users than pro--so of course novice users will stick to what they're given). I also believe it's a little publicity too.

In my opinion Microsoft have EVERY RIGHT to ship IE with Windows; it makes perfect sense. Business isn't fair, it's business.

- Do note: I am no MS fan-boy, in fact I'm moving over to the dark side (Mac) soon so don't fall under any illusion that I'm being biased.

[Apologies for poor English ...not had much sleep and well, too tired to care.]

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

aaaaa — Fri, 08 May 2009 18:58:54 -0000

Big fucking deal. Get over it mashable.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

wtf — Fri, 08 May 2009 18:55:17 -0000

....is this really something to write about? Really? It's MS's OS, of course they will set their default browser to IE, who wouldn't?

Besides, just start Opera after the install, it will ask you to set it as your default browser. Click the YES-button, and you're all set. I have done an upgrade, I pressed express and I didn't even notice..

Booring

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Tom — Fri, 08 May 2009 18:55:08 -0000

Blah Blah Blah. It's a RC. Anything to smash at Microsoft these days. They finally put out a slick OS and there is a complaint about IE again? Give it a god damn break. Oh noes IE is default again! All I have to do is run fire fox and boom it's default.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

John Thomnas — Fri, 08 May 2009 18:49:57 -0000

Wow, thats the craziest thing I have ever seen!

RT
www.privacy-web.net.tc

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Television Spy — Fri, 08 May 2009 18:45:21 -0000

I don't really see a problem, first of this is a release candidate - meaning it's not the final product. They have to work with what they've got.

Also in terms of licenses they can't exactly bundle Firefox with it, without having to go in to talks with them etc. Also I don't really see this as a problem as they have to include a web browser by default - may as well be their own. Not including a web browser with your os is tantamount to os suicide, you have to include something for people to get access to the Internet.

Lastly people who want to switch browsers can just as well download and install another web browser. This seems more like people who just want to complain about Microsoft unnecessarily, the same people who want to use Firefox and Opera will be smart enough to use IE to download one of the browsers. It's not hard and it's really not going take that much more time.

Anyways, I don't see how this is different from Safari being the default browser on OSx, it makes sense and it's their product so why wouldn't you promote your own stuff.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Allen — Fri, 08 May 2009 18:40:54 -0000

It gets very tiring listening to the "Anti Microsoft" fanboys. I personally don't like IE and use Chrome and Firefox, but it's not difficult to switch to them as a primary browser after an upgrade. People just like to bash Microsoft because of who they are and nit pick everything that they do. Find real problems with the 7 RC and report them, be a little constructive at least ... :)

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

cl — Fri, 08 May 2009 17:42:10 -0000

Mozilla & Opera ought to work with Microsoft to be ready for Windows 7. Despite using Firefox, in Windows 7, IE comes across as the superior browser, given the other browsers lack of integration, e.g., no task-bar tabs or jump-lists.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

Bryan "bytehead" Price — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:33:31 -0000

You know what? I just installed Chrome on my laptop, it's the last browser that I wanted to install on my new install of Windows 7 RC. I bring up the options to tweak a few things, and I see it's already made the decision that it's my default browser.

So Google, you're speaking bullshit when you talk about it. You're doing the same thing.

Re: Mozilla and Opera Complain About Windows 7

linuxed — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:20:05 -0000

With the exception of some fairly new software like flash 10 64 bit. and some driver software I forced to load I find the OS runs nice. It's vista the way it should have been done. I'm happy with it. after the 7000 version stood up with my repeated usage for two months I made the leap and put the RC on both my laptop (1.7ghz celeron with 1 gb ram) and my Desktop (2.6ghz dual core with 2gb ram) They are both running at least as well as XP and I really like the new clean interface. As usual with any new OS theirs going to be software glitches however I really like this and I have to say I'm the most excited about this OS as I was with window 2k and XP.