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There are plenty of good reasons to use both social media sites and corporate websites, and using them to support each other seems to be an effective strategy, in my opinion.
Sara @ iGoMogul
Sara
The only problem I see with the conversation shifting back to the corporate website is that I'm not as likely to consume that content if I have to take the extra step of visit their site.
I visit Facebook everyday so why not just provide me with company updates there? I'd be more likely to read a company update if it were integrated into my Facebook browsing rather than having to go visit a separate site. I like a lot of brands but I can't think of any one in particular where I would take time out of the day to go visit their specific community.
Maybe that's just me though?
John @ Yourmagz
With Facebook users spending billions of hours on the site until Facebook dies out or becomes uncool...you really have to be there. And in these times why spend the money on putting to many features into your corporate website. Keep it simple and TALK TO YOUR CONSUMERS and see what they really want and think.
It's actually become quite ridiculous and unsustainable. I expect a pretty significant house cleaning in the near future, as new sites will come up to replace today's Facebooks and Twitters and we'll have another army of redundant information feeds that businesses will want customers to follow.
Just given our own personal relationships in our lives, how many of us connect with friends in 12 different ways regularly? We can handle only two or three before it's overload.
It's actually become quite ridiculous and unsustainable. I expect a pretty significant house cleaning in the near future, as new sites will come up to replace today's Facebooks and Twitters and we'll have another army of redundant information feeds that businesses will want customers to follow.
Just given our own personal relationships in our lives, how many of us connect with friends in 12 different ways regularly? We can handle only two or three before it's overload.
Now, spreading these facts, that is social, because it benefits the society. Not a few corporate interests to the detriment of all.
-Manuel.
Also out of curiosity, do you prefer that I comment here vs. on Facebook, Twitter or via a Tumblr post?
as for where you comment, I personally prefer you do it on Mashable and then syndicate your comment back to Twitter, but, that's why we added our "social media comments" feature, so we can track them all and leave it up to you :-)
Re: where to comment... touché, Mr. Ostrow. ;)
You are clearly indicating that despite Chi.mp potentially being #181 there is plenty of room and opportunity for all in the Web 2.0 space to differentiate themselves and prosper. I agree totally. Still Mashable has participated in the whole Twitter vs. Facebook vs. Myspace vs. Google as though there can only be one. Twitter is no more than sms everywhere and on everything, Facebook is a stripped down aggregator geared towards connections with minimalist tendencies and Myspace is really a portal in the AOL, Yahoo sense with limited community features and a focus on music, movies, videos and a heap of self expression. They are all completely different services with often different audiences and none of them could touch Google, so why the ridiculous post and assertions. It looks like an utter lack of objectivity.
Those in Social Media have a responsibility to each other to be honest with each other about the market, its needs and what's being provided. Those of you who do the reporting need more than anything to be objective. You can't on one hand say when its a sponsor or friend there's plenty of room in the space and it doesn't matter if they are the 181st. Then later beat the drum that Myspace is irrelevant because Facebook which is entirely different and has a different focus, has more members and thus must be more relevant. Twitter honestly would have more members than anyone if you think about it, its not a portal and can't do any of the things that Facebook or Myspace do, because it is a Short Messaging Service, freed from the constraints of the cell while exemplifying the behavior of RSS. It does what none of the others do and so doesn't compete with them, while all the other services definitely can and do benefit from its use.
Instead of trumpeting the demise of Pownce, Jaiku and now Rejaw which were worlds better than Twiiter, the question should have been asked how is this service which lacks so many features getting so much positive press. Apple, Amazon and anyone that routinely study their client bases, will tell you, 'the less clicks the better'. How could Twitter for instance really be a sustainable model when it needs an army of other websites to provide functionality that for whatever reason it didn't when everyone else was? The most tiring aspect of Web 2.0 is the ridiculous number of signup processes you have to have to go through. If Apple built a Twitter competitor, do you think there would be all these other websites just to send a picture? They'd build the greatest service and then hobble it by trying to dictate what you could and could not say or send, but that's Apple. Groups, channels and chat would be done in a way that makes sense and wouldn't require a course in deciphering hash tags either.
A corporate website might have 4 or 6 post a year, only they were more pronouncements or proclamations often legal, cold and distant. Wordpress MU/BuddyPress, ExpressionEngine et al are about the incorporation of the best aspects of the static webpage with social media technologies. As the market matures, companies will find that Facebook best serves their customers who were already on Facebook. Yet as it limits their ability to implement their brands any way they see fit and they loose eyes because as many know, 'sign-up to see more' turns some people off, their web properties will be less custom, as in good luck with that Adobe, and instead use ExpressionEngine, WordPressMU and the like.
The beauty of Web 2.0 isn't about the actual technology or even today's giants in the space. Web 2.0 at its best is about getting your message to your audience in the manner best consumed and utilized by them. It allows developers and consultants to identify the tools that are needed for their projects vs. having to build them. Disqus, GetSatisfaction, Twitter, Facebook, Digg, Myspace and Google are distinct and necessary parts of communications strategies that when mixed and matched capably provide enhanced stickiness because they are now interactive. Corporations will adapt, but the idea of Pepsi just having a Facebook page only. No, corporate websites aren't going any where. As they pay less attention to the hype of sites like Mashable, Facebook and Twiter might fade into the background more. There just tools, Adam, not the destination.
This article is really more about the thinning of web content horizontally across open API services like Twitter, which is exactly how things should be evolving. However, it will always be important for the reasons I mention to host and manage one's own web space.
-D
Having a dotcom used to be the way to differentiate, now having a twitter account or fb profile/group is.
The real question is what's next?
In fact, it’s safe to say there are only two kinds of advertisers in this day and age: those that are already involved with social media, and those that soon will be. Advertisers recognize that consumer attention has shifted to the social networks. Many advertisers have already put a toe in the social media water, and many more are testing to see what it’s like and how it works.
Advertisers “are discovering the power of social networks but in large part not using them well. In 2009, over 70 percent of Fortune 500 companies will attempt social marketing campaigns, and 50 percent of them will fail to achieve their goals.”
While social networking still accounts for only a small part of the total online spend, it’s already obvious that the social endorsements it provides are more powerful than plain impressions. But social media marketing is in many ways so unlike regular advertising that it’s almost the opposite: The more you tout your product or service, the worse the impression you tend to make. In social media, it’s common for less to be more.
That’s why advertisers in social media must find the “sweet spot” between being too self-effacing and too aggressive.
http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/04/will-faceb...
No, marketing dollars are not wasted....wasted would be a banner ad campaign or a billboard that hits a traditional demographic that has existed for the last 100 years instead of who will actually buy their product.
The beauty of Social Media...all opt in. Aka: your biggest fans ARE your marketing department.
-jen
@jenharris09
-Aaron
@aaronellsworth
As for the topic at hand, what do you think about having CEO's being the face of the company? For example, our CEO tweets under http://twitter.com/jobing. He was formerly tweeting under his full name. This could give people an additional reason to do business with a company...right?
You need a strategy and a plan not just this thing or that thing. Make everything work together and then you get success. Rarely is it only 1 thing or the other.
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Funny enough, was blogging about this only today
http://andrewonedegree.wordpress.com/2009/05/27...
Vitaminwater probably saved a lot of money on building a website that no one would go back to. The incremental benefit of the newsfeed is very useful (at least for now).
But "number of fans" count is probably a misleading metric for evaluating a campaign.
Yes, vitaminwater will be able to communicate with those people again for some time but if they don't have anything useful to say it won't matter.
Also, once a few bad apple advertisers abuse the system users will simply learn to hide/ignore advertiser updates (if not opt-out of fandom).
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