the world needs something like Google Wave! get rid of IE i say, it's holding the internet back..
Miguel
· 2 months ago
I wish I could like this comment more than once :)
Jon Griffith
· 2 months ago
OH yeah, and by the way, death to IE.
Danny Peck
· 2 months ago
I think it will, given time, succeed, and succeed quite well. There is something extremely viral about Google Wave. Talking about the product with others stirs excitement. It has an extremely high level of novelty at this moment, even before launch. Things that work and work well have a history of spreading. Word of mouth was much of what was the success of sites like Twitter. People just started talking about it. And it was an open platform, so people started using it in a variety of ways that weren't even considered by the original creators. That's because a well designed flexible framework like Google Wave will inspire user interaction. People will say "Hey, we could totally use Google Wave for this" much like small companies slowly said "Hey, we could use Basecamp for this." And more and more, felt themselves coming back for more. Things will just start to "make more sense" to do in Google Wave instead of email or IM. Or twittering @ someone.
What's crucial for Google Wave, I think, it that the user's FIRST EXPERIENCE has to be a good one. Has to be like that moment you log in to Gmail after using hotmail and saying "Yeah. This makes sense. This is better." Or creating a Facebook account back in the day after being abused by MySpace for so long. "Wow. This is MUCH better. It just makes sense."
I think new users will stumble upon and reveal functionality as they use it. Like, "oh I just replied to this person --- WAIT! I can see what they're typing!?!? WOW!"
Not since the days of ICQ were you able to actively watch your friend type. And I think that was actually one of the biggest draws to ICQ. you could see it happen. And someone's typing has a way of body language that emoticons do not. Pauses, rephranes (sp?) , these things give away subtle hints of someone's feelings about something, and I believe it will add an additional element of emotion to email and instant messaging. Building image galleries, inserting games, and loading up invites to parties through the yes no widget will become "team building" because never before have we been able to, as a one to many interaction digitally, been able to build things together visually in real-time!
Think of how fascinating this will be to use!!
Jon Griffith
· 2 months ago
I think I'd have to say that Wave appears to offer services and features that completely eliminate the disaster we all call e-mail. E-mail just sucks. It takes up space and time and I can't wait until we have more collaborative tools. I'm sold already. The part that sucks is that the people who I need to adopt this technology and mindset most will not change their ways. They still prefer to fax.
Mark Anson
· 2 months ago
I live in Sydney, I'm an analyst programmer (java etc), and I've been regularly attending the Sydney Google Wave User group meetings. From what I've seen, Wave will transform the internet. Sure there are problems with Wave right now and some people will talk very loudly about those problems. But the fundamental features of Wave are impressive: instant messaging + document sharing + gadgets, maps, robots, etc.
I've been building and testing Wave robots for a few months... I think Wave will provide the framework for a whole array of new online inventions
macewan
· 2 months ago
sure without problem
Faisal
· 2 months ago
interesting....
Michael Moore-Jones
· 2 months ago
I can't see it failing - I mean it just looks so amazing, and I can see it redefining email altogether. But yes, valid points and there is always the chance of it failing...
ac2913
· 2 months ago
in fact i think wave will increase adoption of a lighter browser..LIKE CHROME!!!...once it gets more and more popular...their marketing strategy worked with gmail...times have changed...but its quite possible the strategy will work again..
it looks amazing, but i don't see my mom & dad using it ;) or most of the (business)people they know.
saniiro
· 2 months ago
I think the fact that it's open sourced will cause many engineers and developers to flock towards it. I part of the reason Firefox caught on was because the code was much more open to the community to work on and add to their resumes in comparison to the closed doors IE. Whether or not people stick around remains to be seen. It's really hard to judge right now because it isn't actually out to the public yet, so we can't gauge it's future w/o the initial public users input. The media and developers that have tested it so far seem to think rather positively of it, so I think it will do well. It might take a while for people to catch on, but it should get eventually get a large chunk of people to use it.
Wade A. Inganamort
· 2 months ago
If this happens quickly: "Google is working on making published Wave content read-only for all users, even those not logged into Wave."
WYSIWYG
· 2 months ago
Zzzzzz what a box of Smarties. This Google Wave crap is sounding more like a fashion parade - which tech-savvy-freak is in first? I say POO to marketing! I say POO to yet another useless app! Just a bunch of sheep grazing on yet another IT acre. Sad people, saaaa a a a d (said like a sheep voice)
Adam Gershenbaum
· 2 months ago
It's a game changer. But I think for most people it's going to be very confusing. The core early adopters and 'visionaries' will adopt and influence others to try it out but I think it's going to take some time to stick. Without a doubt though Google Wave offers an experience no other email client does.
Who cares about IE if anything maybe this will force the rest of the world to stop using IE if they want to try something like this out.
Duke
· 2 months ago
Definatley.....Almost all their apps have succeded
radd
· 2 months ago
"Invited by friend" - wave.google.com - How many people can a "friend" invite?
Jeff Taylor
· 2 months ago
So far, Google Wave just looks like CompuGlobalHyperMegaNet to me, in that I can't figure out what it's supposed to do. I'll try it out, most likely once it leaves the invite-only stage, but at this point I can't say it's something I need. Right now, I have to vote for "Somewhat".
araphor
· 2 months ago
I have my doubts if people are ready to change their way to communicate after tens of years being used to emailing. I sure expect much of Wave, but it might be too complicated for the general internet users.
blckbrry
· 2 months ago
A lot of people will be trying Wave at the beginning. Most of them will eventually figure out that Wave's innovations only contribute to one thing: time-wasting.
ptcapo
· 2 months ago
I will let you know after you give me an invite! :)
Nathan Snyder
· 2 months ago
It looks amazing! But I voted for a slow success because (unless it gets STELLAR email integration) until everyone adopts it, not everyone will want to check two things every day.
martani_net
· 2 months ago
I don't think so, specifically now where u can't delete participants on waves and such must have stuff
Justin
· 2 months ago
I'm definitely anxious to give it a try. I can think of a few good uses for it but am not sure until I get my hands on it
famebook
· 2 months ago
This is a rare occasion where I think Google are playing into Microsoft's hands. If they (MS) finally work out that all people want is much of what's already there, but in a more sexy, reliable and uncomplicated form, then Wave will simply be a goodbye gesture. Maybe this will be better defined by the Apple/ Courier 'reveals' and what Microsoft does next with Social/ Facebook ... Personally I trust Google with search, but am a long way off running my work, play and communications through them..which also applies to the majority of people I ask... That said, I think MS has a style problem and its traditional business model has also made the product evolution much harder for the consumer to embrace. I want a cast iron guarantee that my online 'life' including all my data is within a secure evolving product suite that I only need to learn once and nurture on an ongoing basis during my life. I don't see anyone offering that yet...but if MS did, then good old fickle general public will stick with what they know and they'd have aced Google at the heart of the matter.
Ed B.
· 2 months ago
I believe Wave will be hit. People are going to love the Social aspect, I think we have a rival to FaceBook and Twitter. The realtime aspect alone will draw people because of the need for instant gratification, which FB and Twitter do to some degree but, it's not true realtime.
Wave is well suited for quick messages and rich content, the ability for collaboration and instant communication are going to make it a must have for the social network group.
Tim Tunnicliff
· 2 months ago
Google Wave will be a HUGE success! It may take some time for many to adapt to the new technology, both from the way it operates to understanding how it works. That (the time it takes to adapt) will be a small price to pay considering all the features and speed 'Wave' has to offer.
Lexienoir
· 2 months ago
I think the hardest thing will be to overcome the complication factor. consumers like this that are progressive yet simple to use... either way I'm a die hard Goggle fan so I'll definitely be using it!1 I hope!
Bob Massey
· 2 months ago
It'll go crazy like it's Google but I don't see it having Facebookish penetration.
I wrote a blog about the implications of Wave the other day. I can see it succeeding, but I'm not too sure that it's a good idea for such a paradigm shift to be hosted all by one company. I'm not going to repeat myself, but you can read a little bit more about what I mean here: http://www.roryclapham.co.uk/blog/2009/09/28/wa...
Nonetheless, I can see it doing very well, but a core user base is what it's going to have initially, a little bit like Twitter is now. Although unlike Twitter, Google has the marketing arm to really push it into the mainstream and have probably seen it as a commercial product right from the outset.
mattrs
· 2 months ago
IDK....Zenbe has already done this with Shareflow and it doesn't seem to be that popular. But the Google name is probably enough to at least make people think that this is the greatest thing ever.....even if it's really not. And what's this I hear about it not being able to interact with email?...bummer. Also, even if I get an invite, it's very possible that anyone I know will not be using it as well, making it kinda worthless.
Hanasmasya
· 2 months ago
too complicated..
NetApex
· 2 months ago
Besides the fact that it is Google's, plenty of other major names have already hopped on board. It may start off in businesses and then move to mainstream instead of the other way around.
drale
· 2 months ago
Hopefully things will be built and guide people better when using a Wave. Because right now a Wave can be anything you want it to be. Which is awesome. But I think some people have a lot of trouble comprehending things in such as continuing to treat that Wave like and email or document, or following any other standard that seems to have be magically set by the users of the wave. I can see someone who uses wave like email and also uses wave like a chat or microblog update, be looking at a Wave that is being used as a chat and not understand that they can past in that long article, document, or picture. There are programs out today they do great job for what they do, but people complain they dont work because they aren't using them to their fullest or correctly.
Glenn Engstrand
· 2 months ago
Perhaps they are anticipating a bit but, if you look at what is going on in the world of Enterprise 2.0, there is a need for a form of online collaboration that is more viable than email yet, at the same time, is close enough to email for most knowledge workers to get it. That is what wave is about for me.
Name
· 2 months ago
Yes, I believe Google's Wave will have major success over the next two years and will change how everyone communicates. E-mail will be history and MS will change the IE platform in order to survive. IE will not go away but will change and become better. I truly believe Google will force MS to change. The features in Wave are so impressive that I think e-mail will be history in less than five years.
mattrs
· 2 months ago
Reading the anticipation on Twitter right now....pretty insane.
Matt Busse
· 2 months ago
People excited about Google Wave on Twitter are a niche within a niche of Internet users.
peteskenandore
· 2 months ago
I watched the entire loooooong video and can't wait. It will be on par with google maps.
Sonya A. Willis
· 2 months ago
I'm very excited about Google Wave. I've already started storyboarding ideas about to incorporate it into my company's next major communication which is itself still in the storyboard phase. So many possibilities for this...
Augure
· 2 months ago
Why ask if most of the people didn't even try Wave ?
One thing is certain 65% of internet users still uses IE, Google has made the not really smart move not to release Chrome on Mac, and a lot of people don't even use Gmail. So I doubt that it will replace emails, too many casual users don't even know what is a "browser" or a "plugin".
But slowly, and if surely, they can reach all other specialized audience: power users, corporation/organisation and schools. Problem is: they seem to be only focusing on coders/developpers and most of them are just working on gadgets and robots that will never meet the needs or inovations that only professionals, marketers, promoters, artists or teachers can design.
Harsh Agrawal
· 2 months ago
It will maintain the hype it has created... Thats what most of developers are saying.. :)
Renante Rondina II
· 2 months ago
It would be nice to imagine a world where everyone uses something like Google Wave. But I can't see offices, families, schools and other non-social-media industries adopting this very soon. People whose work doesn't rely on social media resources are content with Microsoft Outlook, and almost everyone I know at work (I work in a hospital research centre) still uses IE.
I am, however, looking forward to the iPhone integration. I think Google Wave will start catching on a lot faster when people start seeing the tech-savy cool kids use it. Cuz then, like the iPhone vs. Blackberry, it'll be more about having fun and playing with your apps than it'll be about work and productivity.
killerfiller
· 2 months ago
definitely!
Daniel Chen
· 2 months ago
i think it is going to take a long time but in the end goggle will get to the tipping point
Nick
· 2 months ago
I think the IE users will take a while to adopt, and getting the world to replace email is a massive ask - I personally hope they do it , how cool (not spelt cuil) would it be if everyone used this.
PS roll on 2012 and the slow death of IE6
Danny Peck
· 2 months ago
Maybe something as amazing as Google Wave will compel people to switch from IE to Firefox. Word of mouth "Hey, you need Firefox to use it. But it's free and much better than IE" would be a possible scenario.
Scott
· 2 months ago
If they get killer apps like Sketchup on Google Wave then it will succeed.
gatorallin
· 2 months ago
I love the idea that the live chat is instant and see this as a huge time saver. It does seem more work related as a tool, vs for personal uses...although in the demo they were clearly trying to make it seem ideal for personal use. For me the product is hard to explain at first and maybe why they did over a 1 hour video on it.. my elevator speech to others is that "if gmail = 2D, then Wave = 3D email". I am not sure about the name, "wave" and wish it was e-wave or something catchy... either way it seems we will get to waive goodbye to regular email....and Can't wait...email....and Can't wait...
Blogs Marketing
· 2 months ago
I think it will do well, Google's doing it!!!....
Grant Hutchinson
· 2 months ago
I could give a rip about Google Wave, but I take issue with your insinuation that the Newton was a “flop”. True, it never achieved the mass-market success of similar, yet differently executed devices such as the Palm Pilot. But, I would argue that the Newton didn’t fail at all. Technologically, it did what the platform set out to do … and did it very well. It was developed and improved over several years and took advantage of increasingly more powerful hardware iterations. It certainly achieved a status within the consumer and corporate communities and is currently appreciated as an innovative and still unrivaled (in many aspects) computing platform.
A flop? Hell, no.
A less successful product for Apple that was killed just as it was getting some traction? Absolutely.
Calling the Newton platform a “flop” is both unfair and inaccurate.
Birgit Hapfelmeier
· 2 months ago
It remains thrilling if and how Google Wave can change the communication in 2010 and what that means for the business world. Thank you for the great discussions and background information.
ILikeGoogleWave
· 1 month ago
Collaboration .. Yes Replace Email .. hmmm.... BIG POSSIBILITY! but need to give a big interesting facts for our old folks.. like "hey mom, I bought you an interactive multi-touch TV! MOM: ooooo... what's so interactive about.. i rather sit here and hand me that remote-control..."
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What's crucial for Google Wave, I think, it that the user's FIRST EXPERIENCE has to be a good one. Has to be like that moment you log in to Gmail after using hotmail and saying "Yeah. This makes sense. This is better." Or creating a Facebook account back in the day after being abused by MySpace for so long. "Wow. This is MUCH better. It just makes sense."
I think new users will stumble upon and reveal functionality as they use it. Like, "oh I just replied to this person --- WAIT! I can see what they're typing!?!? WOW!"
Not since the days of ICQ were you able to actively watch your friend type. And I think that was actually one of the biggest draws to ICQ. you could see it happen. And someone's typing has a way of body language that emoticons do not. Pauses, rephranes (sp?) , these things give away subtle hints of someone's feelings about something, and I believe it will add an additional element of emotion to email and instant messaging. Building image galleries, inserting games, and loading up invites to parties through the yes no widget will become "team building" because never before have we been able to, as a one to many interaction digitally, been able to build things together visually in real-time!
Think of how fascinating this will be to use!!
I've been building and testing Wave robots for a few months... I think Wave will provide the framework for a whole array of new online inventions
Who cares about IE if anything maybe this will force the rest of the world to stop using IE if they want to try something like this out.
Wave is well suited for quick messages and rich content, the ability for collaboration and instant communication are going to make it a must have for the social network group.
Nonetheless, I can see it doing very well, but a core user base is what it's going to have initially, a little bit like Twitter is now. Although unlike Twitter, Google has the marketing arm to really push it into the mainstream and have probably seen it as a commercial product right from the outset.
One thing is certain 65% of internet users still uses IE, Google has made the not really smart move not to release Chrome on Mac, and a lot of people don't even use Gmail.
So I doubt that it will replace emails, too many casual users don't even know what is a "browser" or a "plugin".
But slowly, and if surely, they can reach all other specialized audience: power users, corporation/organisation and schools.
Problem is: they seem to be only focusing on coders/developpers and most of them are just working on gadgets and robots that will never meet the needs or inovations that only professionals, marketers, promoters, artists or teachers can design.
I am, however, looking forward to the iPhone integration. I think Google Wave will start catching on a lot faster when people start seeing the tech-savy cool kids use it. Cuz then, like the iPhone vs. Blackberry, it'll be more about having fun and playing with your apps than it'll be about work and productivity.
PS roll on 2012 and the slow death of IE6
A flop? Hell, no.
A less successful product for Apple that was killed just as it was getting some traction? Absolutely.
Calling the Newton platform a “flop” is both unfair and inaccurate.
Thank you for the great discussions and background information.
Replace Email .. hmmm.... BIG POSSIBILITY! but need to give a big interesting facts for our old folks.. like "hey mom, I bought you an interactive multi-touch TV! MOM: ooooo... what's so interactive about.. i rather sit here and hand me that remote-control..."