DISQUS

Gregg DesElms · 6 months ago

As I was reading this article, I choked on: "In most instances, you can see what someone else is typing, character-by-character."

I don't let even my wife watch over my shoulder whenever I work at the computer. She can, when invited, stand over my shoulder while I show her something... but watching over my shoulder during normal work? Not a chance. Not her. Not anyone. And here's why:

The ultimate impact and meaning to the reader of anything written would be inordinately influenced by said reader being a witness to its creation. If one is a thoughtful writer who doesn't just blurt out every wayward thought that flits through one's brain, then one's going to pause to think while one types, and back-up and delete and re-type, and whatever else behind-the-scenes activity goes into what ends-up being the finished written product. If the reader were able to witness what the writer mere thought about writing, and then did but then thought better of and changed it to something else, then the bell of what the reader saw that was subsequently removed cannot be un-rung; and the reader's interpretation of the final result will be indelibly affected by it.

Though I be in my fifties, I embrace new technologies like a kid. But this one is already rubbing me the wrong way a little... and for me, that's unusual. Whatever else Google Wave might be, or whatever other good of which it might be capable, the ability of it participants to see one another's keystrokes is a monumentally bad (of biblical proportions, in my opinion) idea...

...and so will ultimately likely be a huge deal-breaker for me.

Huge.


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Bernard Glassman · 6 months ago

Being watched as we type is so much like the earliest days of online communication. Some of us can remember those services that let us see each keystroke of the person we were communicating with as they typed, backed up, corrected. But in most cases that I can recall it was one-on-one. If there was bit of intimacy, fine. It was deliberate and we knew to whom we were exposing our creative process. This, though, would be just too visible. I'm recalling an episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" in which the word "aunt" is misspelled in an obituary. If you know Larry David, you can imagine what the misspelling was, and you can imagine how he belabored it for comic value.

In any event, imagine making a similar typing error while visible to potentially thousands of readers. Was is a mis-type or was it something you really meant but thought better of upon seeing it on the screen? I wouldn't want to have to defend myself against deliberate mis-readings of my transient errors.

Prediction: The "watch-me-type" feature will either disappear or become optional.

brucewagner · 6 months ago

The character-by-character, "watch me type", feature IS ALREADY OPTIONAL....

In the demo they show how you can check the box called Draft Mode to turn that off...

nspur · 5 months ago

Yeah, I don't know why they make it seem otherwise in the article. Also, I think people might adapt to something like this, and give a bit more thought delay before typing. Not to scare, but it could almost be like a new medium for expression if you could understand someone's thought process as well as their statements.

Gnu Group - ILG · 6 months ago

oh my... it's awesome,
just seen the video also on you tube, it simply rocks... wow

Hercules K · 6 months ago

yeah, i can't wait to check it out too!

Thomas Shaw · 6 months ago

Very impressed with Wave. Just think of the possibilities

CJ - Business Plan Specialist · 6 months ago

Where in heaven's name to real people find time for all this socializing? Yeesh, doesn't anybody have work to do?

Some random guy · 6 months ago

This isn't just about socializing. You can collaborate on documents, have everyone at a meeting take notes on the same page simultaneously (and ask questions to the group without speaking out loud), or (in the future) use this as a calendaring solution. There's a lot more to this than IM and Twitter.

brucewagner · 6 months ago

Amen!

for more intelligent discussion about Google Wave see http://DiscussWave.com

TwoPageAfro · 6 months ago

I swear Google's going to take over the world.

catsvision · 6 months ago

They've already done it

Richard John · 6 months ago

"Going to"?

dagorret · 6 months ago

Excelent post.
The question, When you enable the platform?

Carl · 6 months ago

Thanks for this complete introduction to Wave.

Ben Parr · 6 months ago

My pleasure. I guess I'm the Google Wave guy today. :-D

Bernard Glassman · 6 months ago

Ben: "We’ll probably start seeming some very advanced robots in the near future."
Me: "We probably will. But my guess is that you meant 'seeing.'"

sherif · 6 months ago

Goodbye FriendFeed

mark mayhew · 6 months ago

lol, I musta missed "Hello FriendFeed"

Oliv · 3 months ago

byebye all the habits. And the others plateformes?

Hisham · 6 months ago

Thank you for introducing Google wave to us, looks very interesting!

Leary · 6 months ago

Awesome. Cheers for the heads up!

Justin Parks · 6 months ago

Will this work with twitter? Or crush it out of existence? Looks very interesting regardless.

Jackie · 6 months ago

Crush it!

jaephlec · 6 months ago

I don't think so. If they're talking about "Twave" it looks like they want to be able to support Twitter not stomp it out.

vidarh · 6 months ago

Though if Wave takes off, the protocol, and the fact it's federated and based on XMPP means that it'd be trivial to make a twitter like Wave gadget that doesn't need Twitter, and gets all kinds of benefits (such as no single point of failure)

Dorothy Smith · 6 months ago

Great work!!!!!!!!!!

swagv · 6 months ago

This suspiciously looks like the horribly bloated ideas in search of a problem that come up when you sequester your brightest engineering minds in a conference room for several days.

I know only because I speak from much direct experience on the matter.

Old Elmer Fudd · 6 months ago

So what was your mad idea, anyway?

Ben · 5 months ago

Seems like a theme for Google. I supose they gotta do something

Abhik Chowdhury · 4 months ago

Brightest Engineering minds have been responsible for best innovative products out there. So u complaining?

aarondm · 2 months ago

You didn't watch the presentation on google's site did you. its crazy.. like Ajax on crack with a dose of desktop application in the mix. This is going to be a big deal, may be bigger than any other idea I have seen in ten years. Like the next myspace, facebook, youtube, twitter. etc..

LANjackal · 6 months ago

Excellent, informative writeup. First sensible report on Wave I've seen all day. Good job :)

布里斯班 · 6 months ago

Google is amazing, so is wavee.

http://brisbane.at9t.com/

cjsparno · 6 months ago

Outstanding report - thanks for the hard work and good presentation. Can't wait to get my hands on this. -Chris

Edwin Khodabakchian · 6 months ago

Awesome post. Kudos!

Matthew Tommasi · 6 months ago

Great post! Can't wait to get my hands on this.

Asha · 6 months ago

A bit confusing, but looks like this can be very interesting.
Buy the way - why is google funding virus (Pathogen) research?
See http://tiny.cc/8jMsT

Nino Natividad · 6 months ago

Great post! Google Wave is cool.

Kailas · 6 months ago

Fascinating. I hope the ACL is more robust than Google Sites. I use DokuWiki now, and the admin for ACL is marvelously easy and comprehensive. You can set up groups and assign users and control access all the way down to single pages or different name spaces. If Google Wave does not provide minute access controls it will still be badly crippled (as Google Sites is today, for this one reason alone)

LaurelPapworth · 6 months ago

Excellent write up and the pictures help a lot too :P

iTbay · 6 months ago

great to see @mashable surfing the Google wave right away and taking on more staffing to meet the significant growth in social media especially Twitter - keep up the good work!

Jeroen Renirie · 6 months ago

Ah, "surfing the wave", very clever. That beats "binging" anything. Poor Microsoft.

Lav C. · 6 months ago

Does anyone else find it conspicuous that Google announced Wave at about the same time as Microsoft is launching Bing? The battle for the spotlight continues!

Rajat · 6 months ago

Seems like google has launched all its applications in one browser.

Samantha Lewers · 6 months ago

Google just keeps coming with new (and mostly better) tools. What consequence to other social media platforms? Great info, thanks.

Rax Lakhani · 6 months ago

Thanks for this. Kinda makes sense now...

kovshenin · 6 months ago

Amazing. I've watched the video on wave.google.com, looks very good! I hope they don't kill Twitter ;)

N.R. · 6 months ago

is it just me, or is that logo very similar to Chris Spooner's Vividways logo :) ?

http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/up...

Rees · 6 months ago

Yeah, the sine wave is a very common symbol in nature. Probably something Carl Jung could call an archetype.

Kim Møller-Elshøj · 6 months ago

Dunno, but the potential of Google Wave almost scares me. I'm happy that everything is going to be open. If Google sat alone on the control of all this information, all these conversations, it would be the beginning of a new era of dominance.

Dunia blogger · 6 months ago

Nice info,thank

Meetul Metawala · 6 months ago

that's awesome, really cool one.....
Gnu Group - ILG

fryga · 6 months ago

so viability I think!

adrien · 6 months ago

Really interesting! thanks for this info

techsupport · 6 months ago

Thank you for introducing Google wave to us, looks very interesting!

krisolin · 6 months ago

This Google Wave sounds very interesting! Maybe this will be the Twitter killer app?

fiomel601 · 6 months ago

That's exactlu what I thought about Google Wave killing Twitter....unless the latter evolves into something else...

brucewagner · 6 months ago

I don't see any conflict. They are two different things. Is email the twitter killer app?

Husac · 6 months ago

Really interesting stuff, Google is always on the wave ;).

StefaanLesage · 6 months ago

Great article ! I'm glad to see there is more information out on Google Wave !

PelFusion · 6 months ago

good informative article and google wave rocks

bleen · 6 months ago

higher and higher the babel's toWer

Σχολή Χορού · 6 months ago

Thanks for the comprehensive tutorial. Ill try to understand everything before i get outdated.

Jim Kast-Keat · 6 months ago

Great post! Can't wait!!!

craig · 6 months ago

Sounds like this will be the new entire package in one. Basically has every social aspect you could think of in one network and community, something all the tech dorks like myself will go crazy over when realeased. Still a little confused with everyone and how it will be set up, but looking forward to learning more.

Robert McAndrew · 6 months ago

Google Wave is gonna be the next BIG thing. I have no doubt that it will revolution email and social networking, combining everything into one seamless app. No longer will you have to open different programs to do different things. Everything in one place. Also, with the "Cloud" becoming used more and more, I think we'll find smaller, more powerful Netbooks taking off, leaving the desktops and laptops behind...

BoatGod · 6 months ago

Google Wave is gonna be the next BIG thing. I have no doubt that it will revolution email and social networking, combining everything into one seamless app. No longer will you have to open different programs to do different things. Everything in one place. Also, with the "Cloud" becoming used more and more, I think we'll find smaller, more powerful Netbooks taking off, leaving the desktops and laptops behind...

BoatGod · 6 months ago

Google Wave is gonna be the next BIG thing. I have no doubt that it will revolution email and social networking, combining everything into one seamless app. No longer will you have to open different programs to do different things. Everything in one place. Also, with the "Cloud" becoming used more and more, I think we'll find smaller, more powerful Netbooks taking off, leaving the desktops and laptops behind...

Rui · 6 months ago

More objective, concise and useful review on the subject, I read.

joe · 6 months ago

So google copied the HOTLINE chat+filesharing client program ? There goes the innovation....

Afzal Khan · 6 months ago

Almost a complete Guide as if now, Waiting to surf on Google Wave's.

Thank's

CindyMedina · 6 months ago

What Google can't do no one else can. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on this one....

Excellent post Ben!

Mike Stewart · 6 months ago

This was an excellent post. I am excited about google wave. I would like to find out if they will have an application for enterprise.

sionide · 6 months ago

All this talk of "later this year"...?! When exactly is that? I want to use it now!!

Kevin McIntosh · 6 months ago

I hope this one will figure out a way to make money for itself.

mascayo · 6 months ago

i like this post,
quite enough explanation to fulfill my curiosity,
thanks for share

Annie Rob · 6 months ago

This has to be the best information yet on new Google Wave thanks for the info. Can't wait to try it out!

C. Hornbuckle · 6 months ago

Incredible! This is so cool. Thanks again for the post. I've been twittering for the past 30 minutes on this .

C. Hornbuckle · 6 months ago

Incredible! This is so cool. Thanks again for the post. I've been twittering for the past 30 minutes on this .

sliackymartin · 6 months ago

and who can get me invite?

joshself · 6 months ago

Great post. Wave is either going to change alot of things or it will be too techy for the common person. Looks great to me but we shall soon see how the public embraces it.

Raju Bitter · 6 months ago

Great post, thanks! Very good explanation of the product!

JacopoGio · 6 months ago

best post on the subject.

JamesWelch · 6 months ago

Thank you for this - esp the images too. Can't wait to really get my head round the mid-term implications (the long-term imps are too big these days!) implications. Or rather, I can't wait to quiz the experts in person about the implications!

justinlevy · 6 months ago

This is an excellent post Ben! I was tied up all last week running a conference I co-organize. So, I started going through all of my feeds and seeing the news about Google Wave. This post provided a great, complete overview. Now I can't wait to get my hands on it :)

openaddisaden · 6 months ago

Hi
I am very inspired of google wave. It's a very good way and i really love it.
Also it's great, because it is opensource.
Thanks to the great article.
But i have 2 thoughts, because i love pgp and openssl. Is there a way to make it secure? Think of don't want to share sensible information with other people or systems. Think about the live spellchecker integrated and so on.
maybe you are interested in a lil discussion on twitter? would be great. -> openaddisaden @twitter or direct twittersearch #dsc4781
Would be great to get some answers.

greetings from cologne / germany

adrian

openaddisaden · 6 months ago

maybe there is a way to write a plugin #pgp ??

Alvaris Falcon · 6 months ago

I must say that's too strong. :D

wholesale korean clothing · 6 months ago

Well, it looks very interesting!

sean · 6 months ago

Added some information from this to http://www.whatisgooglewave.com :)

posted your link on there too!

EnergeticAlien · 6 months ago

Google Wave looks really awesome. I can't wait for it to launch.

Paul D · 6 months ago

Excellent post Ben, lots to take i! More a tsunami than a wave.

Chuck Denk · 6 months ago

Looks rather interesting. How doe it handle labels in comparison to gmail?

fiomel601 · 6 months ago

Thanks a lot for such a great introduction...I am so curious! Fiorenza

Richard John · 6 months ago

I've had enough trouble trying to make the more luddite element of my circle (friends, family) understand Gmail, now this? It'll take off - for sure - among the clued in, like myself.

It's going to take an awful lot to get the luddite masses to shed email and "catch the wave", though.

deancollins · 6 months ago

Does anyone know if Google are going to allow 3rd part Robot developers to charge for their Wave Robots?

Is the Wave App Store going to be the next big thing for application developers?

We were tossing ideas around at BarCampNYC4 on the weekend and came up with a ton of valuable robotos in a short brainstorming session but without a way for the third party developers to monetise those apps.......

What do you think?

Cheers,
Dean Collins
www.WaveAppReview.com

Making Web make Sense · 6 months ago

I am sure this is Google's first step towards real time search. And that is the future. As always google pioneers.

shannon deepri-sina · 6 months ago

Great Post! I Can't wait to explore the possibilities of Google wave, incredible advancements in community platforms.

shannon deepri-sina · 6 months ago

Great Post! I Can't wait to explore the possibilities of Google wave, incredible advancements in community platforms

HarrisWarren · 6 months ago

This is an exciting avenue for Google. If we can bring all of the great separate apps together into one platform, then we are truly connected. Google has done a tremendous job keeping each individual useful and pure. It was only a matter of time before they pulled all of this together. Simon Ford saw this coming. Now here is the evidence.

Stephen Baugh · 6 months ago

Exciting ... can't wait.

Reality · 6 months ago

This is a very smart effort by Google to spy on people and whatever they do in their lives.

Google is not the only solution to the world's problems. It is just a spy.

There are many other smarter applications you can rely on than Google (now waves).

Reality · 6 months ago

A very smart way to spy people what they do in their lives. Google is nothing more than like a person who acts very softly and compassionately towards you, so that you start to rely on it. Then stabs a knife in your back when it wants.

Google is not the only solution to the world's problems. There are also other great applications than Google, and now Waves.

Jerrem · 6 months ago

This is huge, This sounds like gmail and google docs on steroids. Add in 3rd party extensions and open source aspects and this is set to change the way we surf the net!

Brandon Buttars · 6 months ago

Yeah I'm another person that is stoked to see how the education system changes because of Google Wave. I think online degrees and telecommuting jobs will be much easier to manage and Google Wave will probably do nothing but promote the growth of these two things.

Pieter · 6 months ago

Great post. Thanks for going into some detail. Looks like my waveshake.com domain will be usefull afterall.

mybers · 6 months ago

Google is really topping off other new developers with there new comm platform WAVE...they would really take over the world...

What else can we make that google wont think very soon...

Павел Полистовский · 6 months ago

Супер известие!!! Я стороник google, хочется посмотреть на новое детише google!!!

Павел Полистовский · 6 months ago

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Павел Полистовский · 6 months ago

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Matteo · 6 months ago

thanks, it' s cool!

Shri · 6 months ago

I like it...

Shri · 6 months ago

Hmmm... nice!

James Radford · 6 months ago

Great intro to Google Wave. Thanks a lot.

alex · 6 months ago

The way Google comes up with amazing stuffs like this confirms my belief- Google is not just a company. Its an attitude. Its a way of thinking. Rock on Google!!!!

Sushant Agarwal · 6 months ago

Way to go Google wave..

I have kinda mixed of review of Google wave..check out @
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Fotografo · 6 months ago

Que ganas tengo de que salga ya para probarlo :D

Bilal · 6 months ago

waves r rising.....

siva · 5 months ago

Hi your page is open very slow it is take more time
it is a bore to read.

Si · 5 months ago

wow..this is going to be awesome. can't wait

Kevin Lam · 5 months ago

This is definitely something to be digging into and learning. I know that this is going to be a huge trend later on down the road and it will some how be some kind of benefit towards seo/sem.

Seba · 5 months ago

We wrote some thoughts about what is coming with wave that we want to share with you and to hear your opinions.

http://www.corvalius.com/blog/?p=88

If you can read Spanish (or just want to practice it :-P) http://www.corvalius.com/blog/?p=49

We REALLY would love to hear your opinions.

Thank you very much!!

Mark Cameron · 5 months ago

great article! here is a follow up for marketers bit.ly/1OARf

jhon · 5 months ago

Hi,
I had my interview with Google for associate product manager .. you can read the interview here

http://ferozeh.com/Interviews/Google/google.php

hope it is useful to others..

Raffaele Bisegna · 5 months ago

I think that Wave will be a good tool of communication (for me with google wave is born the web 3.0). We are also there occopuando of Wave in our blog: http://www.wavegoogle.it ). To soon!

Raffaele Bisegna · 5 months ago

I think that Wave will be a good tool of communication (for me with google wave is born the web 3.0). We are also there occopuando of Wave in our blog: http://www.wavegoogle.it ). To soon!

Vikas Sah · 5 months ago

A very god introduction to Google Waves. Eagerly awaiting its launch for public use.

catherine healey · 5 months ago

I couldn't help but think of Orwell's 1984 when I read wave robots can change text of entire waves. That could make it much easier to change recorded history.

Monkstar1 · 5 months ago

Anybody know the file size limit to sharing documents with others on Wave?

PS3 VIDEO CONVERTER · 5 months ago

Awesome. Cheers for the heads up!

PS3 VIDEO CONVERTER · 5 months ago

Awesome. Cheers for the heads up!

Mohit Singh · 5 months ago

Great work by Google .........

sujit · 5 months ago

waiting for Google wave launch ! as using a little bit same product colayer since years......

bob macneal · 5 months ago

How does one actually gain access to the Wave Sandbox? The access requests seem to go into a black hole.

leo · 5 months ago

awesome

Virtual Miss Friday · 4 months ago

Google wave seems to be an awesome tool and a great addition to the current Google products. However, I must agree with Gregg DesElms - "you can see what someone else is typing, character-by-character." It's a bit too much for me...

dainathomas · 4 months ago

My God .. thats wonderful!!! ... you just need to drop the file .. and the gadgets are simply super cool ... I m desperately waiting for it to get launched .. and I m waiting for one more thing .. the launch of Microsoft office 2010 .. which we can use online ...

Arshad 'Dubai' Khan · 4 months ago

After such a loaded post, it's funny how you say "While information is sparse,..." at the end :D. I couldn't be thankful for what I've learned already ;). Thanks

Avenger · 4 months ago

thank you for this post but the problem is i caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant wait anymore for Googel wave

Code · 4 months ago

Google Wave is Awesome! Yeah there goes friendfeed! :)

jordan shoes · 4 months ago

googel wave, sounds new to me, but it is really cool.

Eddie Shaheen · 4 months ago

If i want to contact anybody from Google wave how can i do that such as the marketing department.

EntrepreNerd · 4 months ago

I am looking forward to see how much of an impact Wave has on Blogging, Social Networks and News Websites.

lglassware · 4 months ago

I think , this would be awesome when it happens. But for somebody who does not know much about computer, would it be a friendly for them?

lglassware · 4 months ago

I think , this would be awesome when it happens. But for somebody who does not know much about computer, would it be user friendly for them?

scott8035 · 4 months ago

I can't wait for this to go public, and I sure hope they give one of the 100,000 accounts to me. This is something only a company like Google could pull off. A new way of communicating...every time society has been hit with a new way of communicating the world takes a jump forward. I hope to be on that next jump!

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Waisybabu · 4 months ago

This is soo going to kill e-mail.

Sara · 4 months ago

Will Wave incorporate any emergency communications/notification capabilities?

davidwayneosedah · 4 months ago

This new Google Wave sounds like fun. It's punchy and I can't wait to try it!

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david wickström · 4 months ago

Great post, thanks. A good meta title in the google SERP brought me here.

Sean · 3 months ago

Considering Googles wherewehtel and repuration, wave will have tremendous impact. Its about time they merged email with IM. It will stick because most people love being connected and they are as you see text messaging ballooning. The only issue is that Google wave is very server intensive bringing processing back to the server and storing messages, so will this be a bottleneck that hurts it? The key is finding a niche, all the big boys and google will have the Wave customer account, forget about competing as a Free wave server.

Bob · 3 months ago

Serious question...is google's goal simply to fill up space, because if it is, this is a sure fire way to do it, but its a nice idea none-the-less

Manonatha · 3 months ago

What to write?

Joe · 3 months ago

The basic theme of real-time wiki-fied email looks very similar to what radixmail.com had in mind. Cached site: http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:0Cs_c-j8Qmw...

Webteckel · 3 months ago

Nice post, saw the video earlier. I really cannot wait to use is. By the way, the presentation on itself is really worth looking don't you all think?

Egbert Oostburg · 3 months ago

How do get to be such a guru? Your stuff rocks!

How To Jump Higher · 3 months ago

Is this the Facebook killer?

Gurl · 3 months ago

Make it embedded in yahoo groups somehow. Then instead of the several hundred emails I get, I can go to the group page and look at the threads I am interested in. It would also help eliminate some of my duplicate emails/tubes/etc from these groups....So looking forward to seeing this in action.

carlo a · 3 months ago

...will become a very powerful beta bug.

Jamie Crager, CEO · 3 months ago

Gotta love the complete guides... Thanks!

Name · 3 months ago

Lame! Weak! This is so dumb people getting excited about this crap.

remshad · 2 months ago

Thanks i really liked this post, really tech

rishi · 2 months ago

Thanks for this complete introduction to Wave.
nice post

SKYEY · 2 months ago

I WANT TO IT .PLEASE GIVE ME GOOGLE WAVE SN.THANKS

amu · 2 months ago

i am soo goin to be a google wave addict, i was jus wishin for somethin like this like yesterday and wow!.. here it is...i love goolge:x

Russell · 2 months ago

We're going to need some new language if this takes off... here's my thoughts:
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Ben Lang · 2 months ago

Great idea!

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james contrac · 2 months ago

Well, I hope this does not happen in wave http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/whoops_stu...

Name · 2 months ago

It's just packaging. Nothing new, novel or innovative here.