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Google Wave, hello!
Redefine my workflow please.
Baby I'm all yours.
My simple net out is that this is a model that deals elegantly with both messages and payloads, where the payloads could be pics, videos, posts, songs, maps, people/product/business listings, etc.
As such, there is a lot of value in how the handling layer processes these messages/payloads, enabling them to be aggregated and/or filtered into logical constructs, like NOW, LOCAL, TYPE, POPULAR, VIRAL, ENGAGING, etc.
I blogged about an application model that is very complimentary to this (and for which I have modeled out six very specific use cases) in a post called:
"Right Here Now" services: weaving a real-time web around status
http://bit.ly/i40h
Check it out if interested.
Mark
I’ve said it for a long time now: the absolute best aggregator, the one that makes the promise you’ll never need to go anywhere else - and delivers on that - is going to be the ultimate winner in (true) social media.
It is obvious the rise of twitter influenced this app.
Me <> Google Collecting Data <> Recipient
Just signed up for wave.
@itbay
Still will rock!
Personally I'd expect a huge amount of control given to me over what is visible, to whom and at what point. And I want it all without having to trawl through multiple options, on several different pages with sub options 'a la Facebook'. One reason for wanting all this? Why would I want someone to see my real time edit (ie. deletion of text)? If I choose to write something, then delete it and re-write some else it is because I did not want the recipient to see the original text. I had this issue with Skype - when the pencil 'wiggles' as you type but then turns into a pencil eraser when deleting (I've since discovered the 'disable annoying wiggly pencil / eraser function' duh!) and it caused me no end of "what did you just write?" messages.
So, Google, give me complete control over my privacy settings but making them infinitely customisable yet making it as easy to use as Twitter and then you can have access to my data otherwise I'm not sure I have the time or inclination to learn. Possibly ;)
Incidentally someone's comment on Google trying to take back market share from Twitter is a relevant one but then the claims that this concept has been in development for 10 years would quash that (or did I mishear?).
If it can go in and bring your facebook, twitter, email, messaging contacts into one place and turn all the content into "waves" then everyone else is in real trouble I would think.
Not to say it won't be good, but it isn't the "revolution" that its being hailed as - Microsoft OneNote has done this for _years_
Thanks
it will never replace email as we know it.
as for the chances that i'll use it .. slim.
I've been intrigued by the potential of social design for some time. I believe wave and tools like it will enable more potent collaboration
It turns the web into collection of reusable objects and
allow user to mix and combine these shared objects to build applications and 3D games.
The first cloud gaming collaboration platform.
check out www.otakhi.com... Press release coming.....
Now, that doesn't mean there won't be a place -- and a potent one, indeed -- in our lives for such as Wave and its ineluctable variants. It, too, will be useful, under the right circumstances. In fact, from my admittedly only-cursory analysis of it to date, I'm thinking that what actually MAY be "replaced" by Wave, as a practical matter, is traditional "chat," as we now know it (though traditional chat, mark my words, will continue to be around for years and years, too, no matter how good Wave ultimately gets).
Regardless, one thing about which we should all be clear in our minds is that we're not talking about the mere replacing of anything, here. Wave, for better or worse, seems very nearly of the nature of paradigm shift... and far be it from me to suggest that that's, necessarily, a bad thing, here.
It does, however, come with pitfalls about which we should all be watchful, if not actually downright concerned. For example, though it's now coming out in articles (and/or rebuttals to such as I am posting here) that it's likely to be user-configurable, initial writings about Wave touted the ability (and represented it as essential to Wave's very way of operating) of all persons in a "wave" (or a thread) to be able to see, in real time, all others' keystrokes, as they type.
Let me repeat the salient words of that, here: AS. THEY. TYPE.
Think about that, please, for just a moment. It's a far larger problem than, perhaps, it initially seems. Like how sausage is made (or, as some joke, like how laws are passed), some things in life may better be left something of a mystery to those who ultimately consume (or are regulated by) them; and, most importantly, solely at the creator's option.
The ultimate impact and meaning to the reader of anything written would be inordinately influenced by said reader's having been a witness to its creation. If one is a thoughtful writer who doesn't just blurt out every wayward thing which flits through one's brain, then one is going to pause to think while one types, and back-up and delete and re-type, and whatever else behind-the-scenes activity goes into what ends-up being the finished written product. If the reader were able to witness what the writer merely paused before writing; or actually did write, but then thought better of and either removed or changed to something else, then the bell of what the reader saw along the way cannot be un-rung; and the reader's ultimate interpretation and understanding of the final written result will be indelibly affected in ways (even if not immediately obvious) more likely than not to be inherently bad for all concerned.
Now, if it's true, as some who challenge such as my assertions, here, are now saying, that the ability of others to view one's keystrokes as one makes them is (or at least will be) user-configurable in the version of Wave which is finally released to the end-user wild, then my concern, at least on this particular privacy-related point, is happily ameliorated.
However, of larger philosophical concern to me is that the creators of Wave apparently believed, even if only briefly, that something as basic as this issue would not be important. What, then (if anything), does that mean we should also be wary of in the realm of personal privacy protections, just generally, for users of this new and groundbreaking product? For what else should we be watching which may, ultimately, negatively impact us because of fundamental, and at least initially seemingly harmless, privacy encroachments...
...encroachments which may not even be recognizable as encroachments to Wave's creators because, perhaps, of their nationality and upbringing (nothing negative, mind you, intended by that wording, I assure).
One potentially troubling impact (at least from the standpoint of Americans, in my opinion) of globalization (which, incidentaly, I'm not fundamentally against, despite how what I'm about to write may make it seem) is how the sensibilities of those non-Americans who create things which all others on the planet end-up using can unintentionally contravene that which Americans hold perhaps nearer and dearer to their hearts than do non-American others. Those who grew up and still live in countries where such things as privacy and freedom of speech are not as absolute and paramount as in the US may or may not necessarily value such rights to the same degree as do Americans; and it sometimes shows in their work.
It has not escaped my notice that the two brothers -- brilliant though they are -- who created and continue to develop Wave were neither born and raised in, nor now live in, the US... and so I fear (and I may be completely wrong about this, I realize... but absent, at this point, any reason not to, I am nevertheless fearing that they) may not place as much of a premium on the notion of absolute privacy (if desired by the end-user of Wave) as do Americans.
Or, who knows, maybe they do. I don't know them, and it's unfair of me to presume, I suppose (or even to suppose, I presume). One way or the other, though, it should be at least a concern to all that the default behavior of Wave seems so inherently and joltingly privacy-denuding.
So, then, again, begged is the question: Of what else (if anything), in Wave, should we who hold inviolate our privacy be wary?
To appeal to (at least thinking) Americans, the makers of Wave need to take steps to ensure that if the end-user wants to protect his/her absolute privacy while using this admittedly exciting and paradigm-shifting new product, it can, via easy configuration settings, be satisfactorily and incontrovertibly achieved at all possible levels, and in all possible ways. Moreover, as it is developed, the makers of Wave might need to realize that they may, because of their nationality and upbringing, not necessarily even recognize what all of those levels and ways might be; and the Americans (or even the non-Americans who at least fully grasp the American viewpoint regarding all this) who work on the development of Wave should ensure that no privacy holes such as I'm discussing here remain anywhere in it when it's finally and fully released into the end-user wild.
Or so it is my opinion... my two cents worth, as it were...
...which my ex-wife, for example, among others, has been known to quickly attest tends to be about all it's usually worth.
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Gregg L. DesElms
Napa, California
gregg[at]greggdeselms.com
Electronic Mail was the first and maybe the only REAL killer application of the Internet. eMail revolutionized the way we communicate and interact, the way we work together, exchange information and keep in touch. eMail entered quickly in almost all areas of professional and private life and fundamentally changed the basic rules of the global village. eMail communication works like the 'good old' letter or newspaper, and that is one of the reasons why it spread so quickly. As we are unable to travel in physical space to all relevant events and to meet all relevant people, we get the information about these events to us - A journalist of a newspaper, or a friend of us is writing the information on the paper and a system of messengers (postal service) throughout the world delivers the information to us. It is just not possible to be everywhere at the same time. So, reading letters and newspapers comfortably, you get updated and have a quick overview of public and private live events.
http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/email...
Need a beta tester ;)