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Mashable - The Social Media Guide: Could Google Wave Redefine Email and Web Communication?

  • Stuart Foster · 6 months ago
    Loving the collaborative editing feature...could be huge for my writing projects.
  • San · 6 months ago
    Looks like Google is trying to be the "Wal-Mart" of the online world...
  • Joey Darbyshire · 6 months ago
    And succeeding too imo...
  • gautamhans · 6 months ago
    Google products are the best . Google wave is here to stay :)
  • Ben Parr · 6 months ago
    I can't wait to try it out.
  • Wan-Qi Kim, Investor · 6 months ago
    its about time google got a third wind. google was brilliant until seo. adsense was brilliant until crappy fly by nighters.
  • Robert Dyson · 6 months ago
    I submitted a haiku in the "let me know when it's available" form. Hoping it'll increase my odds.

    Google Wave, hello!
    Redefine my workflow please.
    Baby I'm all yours.
  • jcs92 · 6 months ago
    Hope they target enterprise collaboration! Large firms need easy-to-use tools to beat really great places to work^^
  • Yuping Liu · 6 months ago
    This does sound like a cool product. But personally, for it to be really useful to me, I hope Google will decide to include beyond their own suite of products.
  • Ben Parr · 6 months ago
    Any OpenSocial App can be run within it, and because its open source, its' goign to really be expanded.
  • Jimi Wikman · 6 months ago
    Now that looks very promising indeed.
  • hypermark · 6 months ago
    Makes a hell of a lot of sense, especially as an open platform play.

    My simple net out is that this is a model that deals elegantly with both messages and payloads, where the payloads could be pics, videos, posts, songs, maps, people/product/business listings, etc.

    As such, there is a lot of value in how the handling layer processes these messages/payloads, enabling them to be aggregated and/or filtered into logical constructs, like NOW, LOCAL, TYPE, POPULAR, VIRAL, ENGAGING, etc.

    I blogged about an application model that is very complimentary to this (and for which I have modeled out six very specific use cases) in a post called:

    "Right Here Now" services: weaving a real-time web around status
    http://bit.ly/i40h

    Check it out if interested.

    Mark
  • Nick · 6 months ago
    What does this mean for my Google addiction?
  • Femi · 6 months ago
    Im afraid your addiction isnt going to die down anytime soon.. Doctor's prescription - More Google Pills!
  • Aadil Pitafi · 6 months ago
    So Google is ready to start a kickass service.
  • Joe · 6 months ago
    I don't want to wait for Google Wave - Browseology lets me collaborate in real time, available now! http://www.browseology.com
  • Stephen Wright · 6 months ago
    Joe, www.browseology.com doesn't load . . . . Guess they'll miss out on the interest from Google Wave #googlewave
  • Matt · 6 months ago
    Google is going to take over the world... Microsoft who?
  • Sheamus · 6 months ago
    If it’s as good as it looks, and runs as well as it seems, this might be the beginning of the end for Facebook. Why would you bother going there - or Twitter, for that matter - if you can do everything in Wave?

    I’ve said it for a long time now: the absolute best aggregator, the one that makes the promise you’ll never need to go anywhere else - and delivers on that - is going to be the ultimate winner in (true) social media.
  • Brett Allen · 6 months ago
    I've thought about this, and ultimately I agree, but I doubt it will be Google wave itself. While waves will possess all the capacity of email, IM, twitter, etc, in and of themselves they don't provide a collective social community. so I would venture that the life of facebook will revolve on whether they can rebuild their platform using waves before someone else does. Or will the google browser replace facebook--will it let you browse friends. Or will it be some new garage effort that rewards the next wonder kid and leave Mark Zuckerberg wishing he'd sold while on the top?
  • buildingcamelot · 6 months ago
    Looks great - I can't wait until I can have something like this to have all my communications in one spot. Maybe I missed it but will it also serve as a twitter client as well?
  • joe privacy · 6 months ago
    No thanks Google. And social networking is a fad...
  • cliffyballgame · 6 months ago
    joe does it get lonely all by yourself?
  • brianjking · 6 months ago
    Google Wave is looking insanely great! Looks like a combo of Subethaedit (mac app) and Google Docs and much more all at once! Can't wait for an invite! Wish I was at the I/O conference.
  • enigmafon · 6 months ago
    sounds interesting.. but this app looks more it was built out of desperation as google is struggling against twitter in the real time social media market.
    It is obvious the rise of twitter influenced this app.
  • Joey Darbyshire · 6 months ago
    It's been in production for 2 years....long before Twitter got big.
  • Ronjini · 6 months ago
    I don't know that I can handle much more 'innovation'. Why don't you just give me the spare keys to your house, car and all your passwords; then I will finally be suffieciently informed. Geezus Christ.
  • Ty · 6 months ago
    As much as I like Google's products, is there any way at all to make them less heinously ugly? I dunno if I could use Wave in the long term with it looking like...THAT, regardless of its intuitiveness and convenience factor.
  • cb · 5 months ago
    But, does Facebook (especially since the recent changes) look THAT much better...?
  • James · 6 months ago
    client <> server <> client
    Me <> Google Collecting Data <> Recipient
  • ipg49vv2 · 6 months ago
    Excited about this. I can't wait for its release.
  • Ed Rodriguez Jr. · 6 months ago
    This looks sweet.
  • Pumps and Gloss · 6 months ago
    Looking forward to it. Would love them to add folders as a feature.
  • Stacey · 6 months ago
    We look forward to hearing the results of the test.
  • Mike Abundo · 6 months ago
    Right now people email, ping and tweet each other. If Google Wave catches on, will people just wave each other?
  • Aaron Burcell · 6 months ago
    Is this really that innovative? Looks just like CC:Betty's product demo from DEMO 09 --> only they've already shipped.
  • wavetome · 6 months ago
    How will this be monetized? Google is really good at diverting resources to projects it can't monetize (YouTube, anyone?) but fails to support its advertisers (those who pay the bills for all the innovation) with robust account management and trademark protection to name two..
  • Katrina Gredona · 6 months ago
    OMG a year?! I cant wait!
  • iTbay · 6 months ago
    if Google were a girl I would have sex with it - now back to taking out wallpaper :)
    Just signed up for wave.

    @itbay
  • xxdesmus · 6 months ago
    soon to be YAFGI -- Yet Another Failed Google Initiative.
  • Todd S · 6 months ago
    Looks awesome for gmail and google chat, but I would say at this point more use other IM clients than Google chat. Redefine web communication, I think not.

    Still will rock!
  • PDX Guy · 6 months ago
    Wow, more "innovation" that will actually make us more disconnected, both emotionally and physically. Does anyone else see this as a means of supplanting both phone conferencing and video conferencing? "Instant access" to people & information is going to overrule sanity... much as it has happened for the last few years...
  • aviavia · 6 months ago
    Very Beautiful but not surprising. "Imagine an entire office" ... I also imagine an entire site friends doing the same. (google friend connect).
  • barringtonarch · 6 months ago
    can't wait to try this out
  • Philip Turpin · 6 months ago
    In principle I like this idea but... (there's always a "but" right?)...

    Personally I'd expect a huge amount of control given to me over what is visible, to whom and at what point. And I want it all without having to trawl through multiple options, on several different pages with sub options 'a la Facebook'. One reason for wanting all this? Why would I want someone to see my real time edit (ie. deletion of text)? If I choose to write something, then delete it and re-write some else it is because I did not want the recipient to see the original text. I had this issue with Skype - when the pencil 'wiggles' as you type but then turns into a pencil eraser when deleting (I've since discovered the 'disable annoying wiggly pencil / eraser function' duh!) and it caused me no end of "what did you just write?" messages.

    So, Google, give me complete control over my privacy settings but making them infinitely customisable yet making it as easy to use as Twitter and then you can have access to my data otherwise I'm not sure I have the time or inclination to learn. Possibly ;)

    Incidentally someone's comment on Google trying to take back market share from Twitter is a relevant one but then the claims that this concept has been in development for 10 years would quash that (or did I mishear?).
  • Jay · 6 months ago
    There is already an easy button you can push to turn off others seeing your live editing/writing of waves. It's also been in production for 1.5yrs. If you haven't, watch the 1.5hr demo they posted, it shows a lot of the core functionality. Google wave seems able to assimilate tweets etc into waves hence I don't see why you would ever have to go back to twitter etc after signing up. The waves appear as regular tweets in twitter to others who do not have Google Wave.

    If it can go in and bring your facebook, twitter, email, messaging contacts into one place and turn all the content into "waves" then everyone else is in real trouble I would think.
  • Petr Buben · 6 months ago
    Google Wave - even the name selection, and the icon, is fantastic.. yes Google defines, redefines, redesigns the web .. the best will always prevail. ... now, can Mashable, and other leading tech blogs, deploy Google FriendConnect already? .... Can we have, not only sign up with FB, TW, but also Google and Friendfeed ? ..and also, POST comments simultaneously, on check box options, to these services, plus Blogger. surprisingly, http://HuffingtonPost.com is cool on this .... thank you.
  • Your Name* · 6 months ago
    Im just getting into twitter and now this. The explanation and descriptions were worthy enough even for a newby like me to understand. Thanks Deb
  • Manuel Mondragon · 6 months ago
    It could be, but... I don't like the interface.
  • Dave · 6 months ago
    This isn't new technology, this isn't the first time it's being implemented, and this isn't unique aside from a Google stamp.

    Not to say it won't be good, but it isn't the "revolution" that its being hailed as - Microsoft OneNote has done this for _years_
  • TwoPageAfro · 6 months ago
    Thank you Dave! I was saying the same thing to myself.
  • website promotion services · 6 months ago
    Nice one, i hope it will be so popular as google search, concept is so clear, it would be a one of the best communication system in internet, hope so,

    Thanks
  • geekevaluation · 6 months ago
    I have signed up to be informed whenever it is launched. Making more sound than BING for now
  • catsvision · 6 months ago
    Excited about this. I can't wait to try it.
  • Adso Castro · 6 months ago
    good ;D
  • tika · 6 months ago
    put it simply - this is an advanced bulletin board.
    it will never replace email as we know it.
    as for the chances that i'll use it .. slim.
  • Mark Essel · 6 months ago
    Looking forward to adding my 2 cents to awesome Ben Parr social media Tsunamis.
    I've been intrigued by the potential of social design for some time. I believe wave and tools like it will enable more potent collaboration
  • Bryan · 6 months ago
    Eh. This is kind of exciting, sure, but I get the impression that Google is releasing this a year or more too early - it's not likely to catch on. I'd be glad to be proven wrong, though.
  • Infonote · 6 months ago
    When will Google Wave be released worldwide?
  • Steve · 6 months ago
    oTakhi Cloud Formation is the real paradigm shifter.
    It turns the web into collection of reusable objects and
    allow user to mix and combine these shared objects to build applications and 3D games.
    The first cloud gaming collaboration platform.

    check out www.otakhi.com... Press release coming.....
  • Harsha · 6 months ago
    Cannot Wait to lay my hands on this!!!
  • Gregg L. DesElms · 6 months ago
    Thinking of Wave in terms of "replacing" such as GMAIL (or even email, itself) is just silly. Not every Internet communication needs to be (or even should be) as would be in Wave. Traditional email, at the very least, should (and likely will) never go away. Of this, I think there should be little fear or doubt.

    Now, that doesn't mean there won't be a place -- and a potent one, indeed -- in our lives for such as Wave and its ineluctable variants. It, too, will be useful, under the right circumstances. In fact, from my admittedly only-cursory analysis of it to date, I'm thinking that what actually MAY be "replaced" by Wave, as a practical matter, is traditional "chat," as we now know it (though traditional chat, mark my words, will continue to be around for years and years, too, no matter how good Wave ultimately gets).

    Regardless, one thing about which we should all be clear in our minds is that we're not talking about the mere replacing of anything, here. Wave, for better or worse, seems very nearly of the nature of paradigm shift... and far be it from me to suggest that that's, necessarily, a bad thing, here.

    It does, however, come with pitfalls about which we should all be watchful, if not actually downright concerned. For example, though it's now coming out in articles (and/or rebuttals to such as I am posting here) that it's likely to be user-configurable, initial writings about Wave touted the ability (and represented it as essential to Wave's very way of operating) of all persons in a "wave" (or a thread) to be able to see, in real time, all others' keystrokes, as they type.

    Let me repeat the salient words of that, here: AS. THEY. TYPE.

    Think about that, please, for just a moment. It's a far larger problem than, perhaps, it initially seems. Like how sausage is made (or, as some joke, like how laws are passed), some things in life may better be left something of a mystery to those who ultimately consume (or are regulated by) them; and, most importantly, solely at the creator's option.

    The ultimate impact and meaning to the reader of anything written would be inordinately influenced by said reader's having been a witness to its creation. If one is a thoughtful writer who doesn't just blurt out every wayward thing which flits through one's brain, then one is going to pause to think while one types, and back-up and delete and re-type, and whatever else behind-the-scenes activity goes into what ends-up being the finished written product. If the reader were able to witness what the writer merely paused before writing; or actually did write, but then thought better of and either removed or changed to something else, then the bell of what the reader saw along the way cannot be un-rung; and the reader's ultimate interpretation and understanding of the final written result will be indelibly affected in ways (even if not immediately obvious) more likely than not to be inherently bad for all concerned.

    Now, if it's true, as some who challenge such as my assertions, here, are now saying, that the ability of others to view one's keystrokes as one makes them is (or at least will be) user-configurable in the version of Wave which is finally released to the end-user wild, then my concern, at least on this particular privacy-related point, is happily ameliorated.

    However, of larger philosophical concern to me is that the creators of Wave apparently believed, even if only briefly, that something as basic as this issue would not be important. What, then (if anything), does that mean we should also be wary of in the realm of personal privacy protections, just generally, for users of this new and groundbreaking product? For what else should we be watching which may, ultimately, negatively impact us because of fundamental, and at least initially seemingly harmless, privacy encroachments...

    ...encroachments which may not even be recognizable as encroachments to Wave's creators because, perhaps, of their nationality and upbringing (nothing negative, mind you, intended by that wording, I assure).

    One potentially troubling impact (at least from the standpoint of Americans, in my opinion) of globalization (which, incidentaly, I'm not fundamentally against, despite how what I'm about to write may make it seem) is how the sensibilities of those non-Americans who create things which all others on the planet end-up using can unintentionally contravene that which Americans hold perhaps nearer and dearer to their hearts than do non-American others. Those who grew up and still live in countries where such things as privacy and freedom of speech are not as absolute and paramount as in the US may or may not necessarily value such rights to the same degree as do Americans; and it sometimes shows in their work.

    It has not escaped my notice that the two brothers -- brilliant though they are -- who created and continue to develop Wave were neither born and raised in, nor now live in, the US... and so I fear (and I may be completely wrong about this, I realize... but absent, at this point, any reason not to, I am nevertheless fearing that they) may not place as much of a premium on the notion of absolute privacy (if desired by the end-user of Wave) as do Americans.

    Or, who knows, maybe they do. I don't know them, and it's unfair of me to presume, I suppose (or even to suppose, I presume). One way or the other, though, it should be at least a concern to all that the default behavior of Wave seems so inherently and joltingly privacy-denuding.

    So, then, again, begged is the question: Of what else (if anything), in Wave, should we who hold inviolate our privacy be wary?

    To appeal to (at least thinking) Americans, the makers of Wave need to take steps to ensure that if the end-user wants to protect his/her absolute privacy while using this admittedly exciting and paradigm-shifting new product, it can, via easy configuration settings, be satisfactorily and incontrovertibly achieved at all possible levels, and in all possible ways. Moreover, as it is developed, the makers of Wave might need to realize that they may, because of their nationality and upbringing, not necessarily even recognize what all of those levels and ways might be; and the Americans (or even the non-Americans who at least fully grasp the American viewpoint regarding all this) who work on the development of Wave should ensure that no privacy holes such as I'm discussing here remain anywhere in it when it's finally and fully released into the end-user wild.

    Or so it is my opinion... my two cents worth, as it were...

    ...which my ex-wife, for example, among others, has been known to quickly attest tends to be about all it's usually worth.



    __________________________
    Gregg L. DesElms
    Napa, California
    gregg[at]greggdeselms.com
  • James Hogan · 5 months ago
    Based on the demo, it looks like a great product and the fact that it is open source is clearly a good thing too - so I can see it really taking off. It's interesting though that they started by asking themselves the question 'what would email look like if it where designed today?' but seem to have missed one of the key problems with email as a business communication tool - which is volume. I get the sense that this will create fuller inboxes than already exist - especially if every update gets an entry. Perhaps they've thought of this already and the 'play back' feature allows users to exlore the history with only one inbox item but this is not really an 'at a glance' feature. For over ten years now I have been talking about what email really needs - a simple device that allows users to designate the specific purpose of including someone on an email distribution list or as a wave participant. It's so easy these days to cc too many people on an email which is often a defence mechanism (e.g. of course you knew about it, I sent you an email). Something like 1. a response is required, 2. you really need to read this, 3. have a look at this if you get a minute or 4. keep this on file as you may need it at some point (i.e. no need to read it) would allow an automated inbox assistant to prioritise messages using these topics as well as subject headings (e.g. key projects or clients) as well as key users (e.g. you boss!). I think this is so obvious and so simple - how do we tell the Google guys about it?
  • David · 4 months ago
    Thanks Ben for giving us a heads-up on Google Wave. I can't wait to try it out.
  • sujit · 4 months ago
    eMail - THE KILLER APP : WAVE will kill eMail

    Electronic Mail was the first and maybe the only REAL killer application of the Internet. eMail revolutionized the way we communicate and interact, the way we work together, exchange information and keep in touch. eMail entered quickly in almost all areas of professional and private life and fundamentally changed the basic rules of the global village. eMail communication works like the 'good old' letter or newspaper, and that is one of the reasons why it spread so quickly. As we are unable to travel in physical space to all relevant events and to meet all relevant people, we get the information about these events to us - A journalist of a newspaper, or a friend of us is writing the information on the paper and a system of messengers (postal service) throughout the world delivers the information to us. It is just not possible to be everywhere at the same time. So, reading letters and newspapers comfortably, you get updated and have a quick overview of public and private live events.
  • johny2shoes · 4 months ago
    great, cant wait to try
  • Rob Kempton · 4 months ago
    I've just finished reading a book called Blue Ocean Strategy. Read it if you get the chance. The authors researched how organizations redefine market space, and find uncontested market space. There is a technique which comes out of the research called "Eliminate, Reduce, Raise and Create" which allows a product development teams (in this case innovators at Google) to pursue differentiation and trade off's. What is particularly fascinating with technology innovation is that you can't really test new innovations with groups who are satisfied. With Google Wave, seeing text as it's written might be pleasing for the viewer, but could put off the person writing the message?? That's my first reaction. ...but I could get used to it. ...I could see the light (see Twitter!). If all my friends and peers advocate this, the process moves on (see Facebook!). If anyone has any insight into the process of developing game changers I'd be delighted to hear from you. This is what I'm (Man on the Moon Consulting) aiming to understand, and share with organizations.
  • Benjash · 4 months ago
    Why does comparing the Google Wave logo to the Microsoft Windows Logo worry me? See what I mean http://tinyurl.com/kvabwh
  • Sachendra Yadav · 4 months ago
    The biggest problem it solves is that you no longer have to write "See comments inline"

    http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/email...
  • Bhavin · 4 months ago
    New user for google wave
  • Drew Burks · 3 months ago
    Looks & sounds very cool - some similar features to MS One Note. Is it possible that Google Wave could replace all other CRM systems. As a Real Estate Broker and Entrepreneur I manage a ton of relationships and collaboration & tracking activities like email, phone calls, IMs, etc... are vital to my business. Google -I hope you have the answers to my CRM struggles :)

    Need a beta tester ;)
  • Qrazy · 3 months ago
    wow, I am so excited! Can't wait to play with it...