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Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

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Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

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Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

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Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

HHotelconsult — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:10:37 -0000

full post here:
http://www.hrabaconsulting....

Yes this is about sporks. We will get there.

This article had this comment:

"As a linux and mac user at home and a very reluctant MS user at work (saved by a large smattering of open source progs here, thankyouverymuch), I can say without a doubt that the advert for Bing alone is enough to put me off. Even if it wasn't owned by MS... "the decision engine"? Now MS is telling us that they have been keeping us locked in their OS for decades, but now officially, they want us to willingly hand over our ability to make decisions to them. Sure! Why Not? I hope google stays on top of MS on this one. And that Chrome OS winds up kicking Windows 7 in the tookis. That's right. The good guy winning for once. - sorry. I'm ranty today."

*aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...* it made me think of something... something I hadn't thought of in a long time. Well, we will start with my thoughts, and then get to the spork analogy for business and life.

I am a ridiculous clouded out google fan boy. I will say this:

1) Google does "search" well, as well as innovation.. but.... Their google desktop has consistently been problematic for my machines (crashing, eating memory). The Chrome browser is the single worst browser in the history of the universe. That.. my friends.. is not hyperbole. Maybe that is my opinion, but jeez... it's a disaster. I really don't have much hope for the Chrome OS.

2) I have zero time for Bing. It doesn't work well (yet? more use the better it gets?) for me.... but the idea of it being a "decision engine" is all marketing and nobody is literally assuming they are giving MS the ability to make decisions for them. The Pareto principle is going to have me waiting and seeing whether it is worth any time at all... so for the time being they are not going to make any decisions for me at all. What's more, the only thing I find myself typing into Bing is "Google" and I wonder what percentage of people are doing that (tongue in cheek)

3) I want google to kick butt.. big time. I like them... they could do better with back end customer service, but they are trying.

As divisive and outlandish a blogger might like to be in regards to opinions, it never really is that simple, is it?

I am conservative in business, and I see a trend that I am not too thrilled about, and it might be wise to consider.

Sporks are analogies for the human condition

The problem with this situation is precisely about the spork.... the spork is a simple, complete analogy for most situations.... it's not just about business, it's about the overriding human condition.

The spork has prongs far too short to actually effectively pick up peas, or meat; just as the spoon is far too shallow to actually be used for soup or the like.

By trying to be efficient, adaptable, and multifunctional - it miserably fails at everything.

Nintendo is a good example of that... as Sony and Microsoft launched into this world of being too many things... DVD, gaming, sound, computer, "media centers", Nintendo leaned back and said... "Go for it. You guys be "too much"... we will be the game system everyone buys and connects to your media centers. It is far and wide the industry leader in gaming, 2 to 1 vs. competitors. I am not a gamer, don't own a system, and am more likely to go online and play a free donkey kong knock off.... but I still have to thank Nintendo for that. It does, however, offer an interesting view of business: An acumen for knowing your limitations, and knowing what you do well.

I am not saying Google should stay put and not play this technological game of Risk, and world domination.... nor am I suggesting that MS should sit idle in this rapidly redefining tech world. I am just saying they both run the risk at failing at everything by trying to be too many things.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Tess — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:13:52 -0000

As a linux and mac user at home and a very reluctant MS user at work (saved by a large smattering of open source progs here, thankyouverymuch), I can say without a doubt that the advert for Bing alone is enough to put me off. Even if it wasn't owned by MS... "the decision engine"? Now MS is telling us that they have been keeping us locked in their OS for decades, but now officially, they want us to willingly hand over our ability to make decisions to them. Sure! Why Not? I hope google stays on top of MS on this one. And that Chrome OS winds up kicking Windows 7 in the tookis. That's right. The good guy winning for once. - sorry. I'm ranty today.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Sergey Rusak — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:59:27 -0000

Remember Ask.com TV commercials? This commercials actually helped Ask to gain some traffic and take 1-2% away from Google, Yahoo, and MSN. Unfortulatelly, Ask didn't have enough funds to run commercials more frequently and later they stopped.
Bing appears everywhere. For example: I see their banners on 90% websites I go. But are they really good? I tested it and there is still some questions I have. Let's see what will happen in a year or two.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

David Koopmans — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:51:37 -0000

I know I went and had a look out of curiosity, after that much buzz....my click would have counted...how many more like me were there in that 1% spike? It's a month. Come on.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

The Who — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:17:24 -0000

GO BING!

Bing is bringing competition! Googlewashed people do not realize how youtube, streetview AND google search is changing just because of bing!

BING it on!

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

HHotelconsult — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:11:52 -0000

Raise the black flag... funny snark. too true in my eyes... I find it odd how everyone is complimenting MS on the biz move, or talking about ads.... but completely straying from 1) the horrible UI, 2) the fact the crawling is weak, and 3) copyright infringement issues.

I guess it doesn't matter... it's all fanboy hooey until it is gamed and vetted a bit, yeah?

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Raise The Black Flag — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:54:56 -0000

Seriously, who gives a damn? In this Microsoft is merely replicating what Google has already done. Again. For the billionth time. So what if the image search has a slicker user interface? It doesn't make up for the utter stupidity and waste of resources inherent in reinventing the wheel clumsily and then turning loose a marketing juggernaut to tout it. The design is utterly annoying too! I don't want to look at pretty pictures when I'm working. I have the attention span of a hummingbird already and frankly I find it utterly distracting. "I want to find an example of a for loop in ANT... hey! A brightly colored landscape that has nothing to do with... What was I looking for again?". The entire appeal of Google was that it didn't make your eyeballs bleed when you used it. The brand/url is trite and puerile. Am I actually supposed to imagine I'm racking up points on a pinball machine every time I get a search result? This has to be the work of the same bubbly tards who came up with the barely usable Office UI redesign. Why didn't they just go all out and use unicorns and rainbows for the buttons too? I don't know. But I do know that it is a sorry sorry shame that MS has never been able to use their formidable resources to actually innovate. Not only would we not be deluged with 'industry standard' crap software that practically begs any half-assed 3rd world scam artist to write a bot-net and profit from the stupidity, but MS might actually make something interesting WHILE turning a profit. Pardon me while I go wash the bored disgust out of my mouth.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Raise The Black Flag — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:54:21 -0000

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

natemcg — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:29:44 -0000

I don't care about the details of the deal. I can already search on Yahoo and Bing at the same time. It's called www.infospace.com. You also get Google and Ask as well as Twitter.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Molly — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:18:48 -0000

I agree with you James. Competition in any market is good. (On a side note, that's why I'm not in favor of the Obama Health plan. :)

Back to Bing...I'm doing some ads on the site. These ads are targeted towards the Computing & IT crowd, and I'm anxious to see the results.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Daina Thomas — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:32:16 -0000

whoo.. well its a good news for Microsoft ... finally it hit the bulls eye by launching Bing .. and finally the striking the deal with yahoo .. it has now got the right track for the company ...

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

duplicate cache — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:28:42 -0000

But bing and yahoo yet to implement algo for duplicate webpages with same url, in "near future". http://www.bing.com/communi... Which will save cache and by adding pageRank for same webpage improves relevancy drastically.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Matt — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:41:17 -0000

Google isn't non profit data center monastery. Moving your data from one corporation to another doesn't in the end do jack shiat.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Matt — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:38:55 -0000

Agreed.

Just imagine. Google or heck even Apple can only wish they could gain this kinda share in Microsoft's core cash cows if they could. This is Google's only profitable business and Redmond is deep in it now. I gotta admit that Bing is indeed compelling and the millions out there who never switched from their default IE+Live search aren't getting screwed over as before.

I now actively use Bing for Image and Video searches but Google still rules general search and news aggregation.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Anterpreet Singh — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:20:53 -0000

Most of the Bing users are IE users who type in the address bar to search for google and land on the Bing page :D

Bing can't even think to Beat Google as of now!

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Leslie Healey — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:19:46 -0000

imagine my surprise when I first logged into live.com and got Bing! I bet a lot of the increase is due to those who now use Bing and don't even notice. I immediately opened a gmail account

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Leslie Healey — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:17:47 -0000

imagine my surprise when I first logged into live.com and got Bing! I bet alot fo the increase is due to those who now use Bing and don't even notice. I opened a gmail account immediately

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Robert — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:58:45 -0000

Every percentage point Bing steals is major. Every 1% is about the same as $100 million in revenue stolen from Google. Gmail, Google Apps, Google Chrome and other products are all financed by the search and advertise business. Reduce their search market share enough, and you significantly destabilize the company.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

brandonheff — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:19:41 -0000

Microsoft is hoping Google isn't scared I'd guess as it's much easier to take on an adversary that doesn't take you seriously. Bing's no where near their Market Share and won't be for sometime but Google didn't enter the scene with 3/4 Market Share in the first month either.

Microsoft's not a bunch of idiots and if any company has been up to the challenge of taking a bite out of Google, it's them. They're not going to knock Google out of first but if you're a company whose revenue is based on the amount of search volume you receive, even losing 10% of that Market share is going to put a hurt on the bottom line.

It's not about first place, it's about taking a chunk out of Google's purse so they have less money to invest into other venues, maybe ones like an OS or Google Documents that Microsoft would enjoy seeing a bit weaker. I'd put this strategy more in line with the Apple versus PC strategy than a "first or last" strategy.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Michael Murdock — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:47:39 -0000

okay, so looking at that chart, microsoft sits about 1.5" off the bottom of the ocean along with fluid left by whales. Google is OWNING the market. When it flips the other way, call me as I'll be leaving the industry and finding an island to live on minus a computer.

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Jim Gray — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:58:09 -0000

they need competition...

Re: Bing Still Growing, Steals Market Share from Google

Robert MacEwan — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:37:03 -0000

Microsoft and Yahoo! just are not stable enough to capture permanent market share from established users. Every six months one service is merged into another or renamed, spun-off, killed. Hell, I'm in the process of moving all of my Flickr content to Picasa in the event Yahoo! Internetarded and hands Flickr over to Microsoft. Next thing you'll know well all be required to get Microsoft Hotmail/Live/whateverthehellitscallednow usernames.