I know I'm going to sound like an Apple apologist but the Flash performance on my 2.0 gHz dual core Mac is suspect, so I can see why Apple is concerned about performance issues. Flash is buggy and a resource hog, and so far has been unusable on phones and portable devices. If Adobe makes a version that runs well on the iPhone and Apple still doesn't include it than we have a problem.
womble
· 2 months ago
Apple isn't concerned about 'performance issues'. Apple is concerned about a massive explosion of browser-based flash apps that do the same thing if not more than 90% of the apps in the appstore. It's a money thing, nothing less, nothing more.
Justin Luey
· 2 months ago
I don't know if I buy that. Apple originally promoted web apps, and still does on Apple.com. They also make more money selling the phone than they do on the 30% commission on the apps. If mobile flash works on other phones, and web apps explode it will be in Apple's best interest to include it. I personally prefer most native apps over the web apps, so I only miss video right now. I think all of this will be moot because of html 5, quicktime works awesome on the iPhone.
Jensen_G
· 2 months ago
So this is why flash apps have completely taken over native os-based apps on desktops, right? Oh, wait, they haven't.
aboutjer
· 2 months ago
It's a start, but I still feel like shouting, BBBBBOOOOO!
PabloC
· 2 months ago
It is very good news, now is expected to exit the beta for CS5 in the case of applications for iPhone, comment on Adobe Labs that will be the end of the year. We hope to see what happens with it.
Greetings
Chris Kelly
· 2 months ago
It'll be interesting to see how the apps perform when being converted from Flash although it looks like they'll do fine. This will be great for small apps and mashups. Might have to get a copy of CS5 now.
deestewart
· 2 months ago
I hate when companies can't come together and fight. Feels like consumers get the short end of the stick sometimes.
Ryan Lalonde
· 2 months ago
Apple really just needs to add Flash to the iPhone. It's not even really that vulnerable.
Jason Rukus
· 2 months ago
If Apple continues to stifle innovation the iPhone will go the way of MySpace and Google will see to that.
danthecreator
· 2 months ago
Now that MMS is taken care of, my only gripe left about the iPhone is lack of Flash support. It is true that Flash is a core component of the web and the fact that it's not supported through iPhone's Safari is ridiculous!
Marius Kriening
· 2 months ago
Now things get moving it seems, getting the cool designs going on all phones. SE`s going to facilitate usage of flash on winmo6.5 too. Xperia X2 comes with new SDK that enables "Panelizing" of flash apps (as found on several blogs and officially on developer world). then all the good work thats been done on Android... though yet to come whats gonna be the winner in design
Emily W Sussman
· 2 months ago
Finally! ;)
Richard Gunther
· 2 months ago
People seem to miss the point that many [too many, in my opinion] Flash apps depend on you hovering over objects to trigger or use them. The iPhone OS doesn't have any concept of hover. It may not require a rebuild, but many Flash application will (and frankly should) require a UI rethink before deploying to the iPhone.
Andrew F.
· 2 months ago
This will open things up to a way broader set of developers. I would expect the app store to be flooded as soon as this thing rolls.
Justin
· 2 months ago
While few people seem to realize it, Apple has done the world a service by not making it a priority to help Adobe get Flash on the iPhone. A huge service. Flash is *not* a core component of the web. It has its occasional usefulness in a desktop environment, but it's simply not a necessary part of the mobile experience. I have been using an iPhone for years and have yet to miss Flash's absence -- on the contrary, I have greatly enjoyed not having to deal with Flash when using my phone. Standard web apps and native iPhone apps are vastly better ways of delivering needed functionality to the iPhone.
Jaxia
· 2 months ago
Well said -- I haven't missed it either.
Erik K Veland
· 2 months ago
Flash is not a "core component" of the web and never has been. It is a slow, bloated third party plugin which serves as a crutch for lazy developers (mostly straight out of "multimedia degrees").
As the iPhone supports HTML5 with canvas and video, the point is moot.
Simon Crabb
· 2 months ago
I'll actually now get apps written knowing that if they don't get approved by Apple I can still use them elsewhere.
darrenscrawford
· 2 months ago
Will be nice to have on my BB Storm. But iPhone needs to be more open in the long run.
Good news for iPhone owners but still not as good as the news for non-iPhone owners. These companies need to stop fighting and Apple needs to give their users what they've been wanting for a long time. This is ridiculous.
Long live open source.
Oboewan
· 2 months ago
Seriously, if your website isn't important enough to come in a non-Flash version, it's not important enough for me to be visiting it. Your web designers suck.
Flash, unless it's used for games or as a form of animation in and of itself, SUCKS.
Chris Stocker
· 2 months ago
I just want flash on my phone. Bottom line, get it done.
Geoff Titmuss
· 2 months ago
Would be great if the iPhone would support java applets in Safari as well
All Comments
We hope to see what happens with it.
Greetings
though yet to come whats gonna be the winner in design
As the iPhone supports HTML5 with canvas and video, the point is moot.
-Darren
http://darrencrawford.com
Long live open source.
Flash, unless it's used for games or as a form of animation in and of itself, SUCKS.