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Maybe Twitter should have a simple rule - any automated system must have an opt-out feature or Twitter will block their system.
http://bit.ly/13B1BM
How effective the rules will be remains to be seen and is a separate issue.
Sad to see Verified Accounts is still working only for a small number of people eventhough they have large numbers of followers. Would have been nice to see in TOS a regulated process reaching out everyone, now we have the 'verified' and some sort of 'the bunch'... :(
That said, having a verification process through Twitter would be a plus for us "regular people" too, but since I don't know the details on how Twitter actually verifies celebrity accounts I'm not sure if it would be feasible for them to do so.
Also, relying on Twitter to enforce terms against scamming and spamming is not the only approach if ID verification catches on. Since people rarely scam or spam using their real names, the situation could be dramatically improved by letting users have a setting to only interact with ID verified users.
Overall, this makes me a bit nervous, especially since I just followed about 600 new people in the wine business to follow this year's harvest... I just hope whoever is doing the vetting will be careful to weed out the people abusing the system.
The thing I hate the most is the trending topics.... they are so meaningless. Half are spam, the other half are "why is this trending?". They need to categorize them.... allow me to look at science and world news trends rather than famous people, sports, and gossip. Ugh....
Let's hope it works!
I have to say it is a mystery how anyone can get tens of thousands of followers unless they are already a celebrity. I have 46 followers and some of those want me to look at their recent pictures. Others just want me to follow them and then there are people selling stuff and just the weird. I follow those recommended and who have interesting tweets but if I follow too many I just get swamped by too many tweets (particularly from one source) and miss some interesting ones.
I was looking into writing my own bot to help me tweet, blog and update in multiple places and to pick up interesting stuff from blogs and feeds and databases so that my follwers get more interesting stuff to see. To have to manually enter all these tweets will be a pain and frankly too time consuming. So number 2 gets the thumbs down from me.
All I’m saying is don’t follow the herd and you might just come up with something cool. There are vast numbers of people online that can become part of your audience, but if you are drinking too much Twitter kool-aid (for example) you might make an incorrect assumption about what “normal” people want or prefer.
Can you also point me at something interesting that you said. I just looked at your last 100 or so tweets and couldn't find anything.
The way to make twitter work is to find and tweet interesting content, retweet interesting content, and interact with others. Connecting one by one is tough, but a good way to go. you can use Alltop or Google alerts to find good content to tweet, and programs like Hootsuite to automate a small segment of your Twitter account can work in moderation, but avoid "doing the robot" ;)
1) Is that Twitter is a dialogue, not a monologue, so you've got to engage your followers, not just pump out information. Only a person, not a robot, can do that.
2) I have been on Twitter almost a year, and have 16,000+ followers. The reality is that you can't catch every tweet. I reply to all my @ messages and all my DMs, and for my first 10 months every follower got a personalized "thank you for following me" message from me. I don't use bots, except for very few things (such as my weekday PR tips that are tweeted twice daily) that are scheduled through HootSuite to ensure they go out at their set times.
Twitter is work, as is business, as is life, as are all meaningful relationships. You get out what you put in. Yes it's time consuming to tweet interesting and relevant content, but don't you need to know that content yourself anyway? If you're not learning it so you can tweet it, where's your value to your followers? If you're a bot churning out tweets with info you've not digested, why should they listen?
The good and the bad news are one in the same: to be a success on Twitter you have to be real.
That's a bit spammy now isn't it!
"Serial Abuser" screen grab above is from http://twitblock.org/ .. yes, my app, I confess.
Technically then, @Mashable and many other services would then be classified as bots. I'm confused.
I still receive mention spams. Where someone send a tweet with and affiliate link, and mention my username. This can indicate that I support this program.
Most of the times when I check their profile this appears to be a trend. Then I block and report spam.
I am glad Twitter in some ways are working on making their TOS more strict.
Great work here Team Mashable to stay on top of these issues. Maybe once in the future Twitter and other Social Media will have very limited access for spammers.
Cheers.. Are
This means that the NYT, WSJ, CNN and all the other news organizations will be blocked out?
I would hate to see that happen.
Great post though, thanks!
Or, the ones which use RSS feeds to import other's feeds
an "agenda," whether it be Political, religious, sexual or whatever product or cause they are promoting. I have been approched by quite a few who want to "follow" me, but thank
goodness you make it easy for me to "block" them.
I don't know if "Twitter" is my cup of tea...time will tell!
Here is the list: @Jen_Chau
@cashgalaxy
@Pitras24
@alisonmorgantw
@Ana0o7q
@Amber6k3k
@Vanessa9s9x
@GirlyDaniels
@Erin0n37
@Patricia6b10
@Julie3h3r
@lesliewsmith10
@Tammy_H_Harriet
@DUPLIMONEX
@KellyAugustinA
@MelissaGraf4
@xaviermedia
I hate bots and i will do anything to kill them.
How do you not tweet links all the time and still say something worthwhile? 'Personal updates, ' the original concept behind twitter, are way more than 40% inane babble.
I don't know if everyone does it this way, but when I pass on a tweet exactly as written, I precede it with "RT @Author'sName". When I add my own bit or paraphrase, I put "(via @Author'sName)" at the end.
If you make a Twitter account it'd better be yours and you'd better use it!
Example:
#hashtagstory :: #iremember #inhighschool #crashlove #ashes #IAmAGrownUp
Does that mean that I'm a hashtag spammer?
i think that all accounts should be verified.
problems wouldn't exist.
#2 is absolutely bogus. I like that there are automated Twitter accounts. I like being able to follow an account and receive automated updates on something. One great example of such a robot is the San Francisco BART profile, which I believe uses the trains' API to update Twitter based on train arrivals, departures and delays. And sometimes it's nice to be able to follow a website's updates via Twitter rather than subscribing to the RSS feed. (Feeds are for what I read every day, Twitter is for more passive stuff that I like to read, but don't need to see every single item.) Robots are part of why I like Twitter, and suffice to say I would not be happy with Twitter if they started taking actions against them.
My account was wrongfully suspended sometime ago under the accusation of "Spamming a trend Hashtag".
You can see the whole story about this here:
http://thezargon.org/2009/07/the-ultimate-fail-...
I got my account back but I didn't get any kind of apology from Twitter for committing a mistake.
I totally agree that Spamming Trend Hashtags should be on top of Twitter's concern, right along with Spam, but to just apply some kind of behavior algorithm to detect it, is only going to ensure that legitimate users and tweets will be caught on it.
Until Twitter doesn't understand that every case is a case and it has to be treated accordingly we will keep reading all over the legitimate complaints of those that get their accounts suspended for no reason.
Twitter is a lame company, and I hope it dies really soon. Long live Facebook!
Doesn't this fall under the "don't follow them if they annoy you" policy?
I am excited about the rest but the oversharer seems a bit extreme. So if someone wants to tweet all day everyday. Isn't it for them to decide if they want to and the rest of us to follow/unfollow if we don't like it? 9/10 This: "40% of tweets are pointless babble" is "personal" updates. I am in the hallway, in the car. Milk is spoiled. I like cheese. Those are all personal and are garbage unless thats how you tweet but again its for the end user to decide how personal or how many links they share or how frequent they update IMO.
I'd still like to see a "Flag This Account" button on every Twitter page. It's more accurate than forcing people to befriend the mystery @spam account just so they can send a DM to it about a dirty spammer, and it would be a thousand times more convenient.
if i used TwitterFeed with RSS from my blog
i'll take banned from twitter ?
i dont follow any on twitter because i just have a job, friends and spare time. i dont have the time to spent my day following some people which horizon cannot produce more then smal comments on their own life.
and here comes my shot comment on this:
" today i fart twice and then i read this article about twitter and i just thought... who the f. cares about. its the same like 2nd life, it will be just a smal fart in the future internet"
i would like to see the spammers and squatters get deleted!
then i'd be able to acquire a 'certain' twitter name also :)
follow me on twitter @mitchmahoney
That was just from my last two DM's ...
This is ridiculous. They are trying to show us that we aren't worth anything compared to the "celebrities".
Even if we regular people have people who have made fake pages of us, we can't have a verified symbol on our pictures?
That's crazy. We're real, so treat us like we are.
http://www.seodoom.info
Apart from that, I'm happy that Twitter seem to be actively trying to combat the growing spam problem.
Damn spammers should be banned from the net - period! No sense of how to politely conduct biz. My "Mentions" column has a constant parade of these clowns, not one of which has even said hello. It's all about them.
Thanks for this article :-)
A squatter is one who registers in bad faith. Most of them intend to make money off of trademarks.
"Domain name squatting has long been practiced by those looking to make money by snapping up desirable names in the hopes of later flipping them for a profit to interested buyers." This is the definition of a legitimate domainer participating in a legal business. Buying and selling domain names is absolutely no different than buying and selling real estate, or any other product.
Most domainers are not squatters. In fact, most domainers will blacklist squatters. Squatters are a minority, but given their high profile cases they tend to get all the press.
Truth of the matter is, every industry has a minority practicing illegal or immoral tactics. Domaining is no different. There are corrupt lawyers, real estate agents, business managers, cashiers, delivery drivers, etc.
You don't know how frustrating it is that your industry constantly gets a bad rap for such a minority of its participants.
The laws of mathematics relating to Twitter policy say that you must follow back everyone whom you may want to keep as a follower who themselves follow close to 2000 people themselves. This is because you will box them in if you fail to follow back: they will not be allowed to follow anymore people who might actually show interest in what they have to say.
I would say 30% of people who use Twitter, including huge numbers of "experts" and other prima donnas who often have 50,000+ followers, fail to understand this simple fact.
As a result, the prima donnas with 50,000+ followers tend to lose their highest quality followers (including those most likely to RT) who are forced to unfollow them (because of lack of follow back) while keeping the neophytes and ne'er do wells who don't know how to use Twitter, don't know how to RT, and thus will never have to worry about being boxed in at the 2000 follow limit.
My advice to anyone is to especially follow back someone who RTs as long as it wasn't a bot doing the RT and, as a general rule, follow back anyone whom you would rather not lose as a reader.
Do this once per week. No need to do it more often because spammers delete themselves after 2 days and save you a lot of work that way.
I'm a Ron Paul fan, and I used to do a Google News search every day to catch up on news coverage of him and other libertarian issues. Then when I discovered that I could send an RSS feed to Twitter, I turned my daily Google News search into a feed and sent it to another Twitter account I created. Then I followed that account so I can see Ron Paul news in my twitter stream.
I have loved this feature of Twitter! It's incredibly convenient and useful to me. The interesting thing is that many other people seem to enjoy getting regular Ron Paul updates. I set the account up for my own personal convenience, but almost immediately, other people started following it--some of whom thought it was really Ron Paul. (Every time someone said something along those lines I DMed them with a correction, and after the first week I created a custom background with a disclaimer that it was not an official account. I also changed the Profile to identify the account as a news feed.)
I have done nothing to promote the account and I have never tried to impersonate Ron Paul. I've just created a service that a lot of other people enjoy. Now my Ron Paul account has well over 1,000 followers (even more than my own personal account!)
I count this as a Twitter success story, and it's a shame that the new rules will essentially put this account out of business.
@KathleenHanover
Might be a good way to raise money for charity? Auction them off over a couple of weeks and donate the money.
And Fake Followers: I think using your own twitter account to make sales pitches is perfectly fine - I do it myself, but when you follow someone only in order to try and sell them something, that's pushing it.
Twitter has a lot of potential for individuals as well as businesses... glad to see that they are lookin' out.
* If your updates consist mainly of links, and not personal updates;
Kevin
http://www.netcdp.com
It's like moving into a new neighborhood and the guy down the street starts stalking you before the moving guys show up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p-Hu3FkAGU
China and Iran will be very happy to hear this.
- Chris
I have been into tweeting recently , but I enjoy & excite using it.
But I have a request to Twitter , will there be an option for a member to have 2 twitter names assigned to single a/c ?
Because I'm an internet entrepreuner , I develop sites & I want to make sure no one else uses my sitename as their twitter a/c name , so how do I go abt this?
I believe that this shows Twitter maturing as a medium and these sort of changes indicate that it will be here to stay. So I welcome all of the changes... They sound pretty straight-forward to me.
Cheers,
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNIaXpJNiQg